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Also, adjectives

Alpha could be a Hostile Alien or some such thing, causing him to be a far greater threat than a normal Alien
And jivvi could be another person adding unnecessary theories to an alien claim? I mean dude he's not even confirmed... Why bend logic by tacking stuff onto an already improbable alien theory when you can say anything?
 

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Eh, I've got a headache right now, I gotta keep up this grinding on Mabinogi, so I'll bid you all adieu as the night falls, probably toward Alpha's lynch, because you're all, as the Narrator of The Stanley Parable, "...heartless bastard(s)."

Twas worth of shot getting you people to vote me, but you guys obviously don't care for the win condition of a Third Party Duffie, sitting on the sidelines in this game.

Let me just state that I still feel Hunter to be lying scum, and I just don't like how Jivvi's acting. To put it bluntly, they're kinda pissing me off, but that's just me, apparently. :V

But, as I said before, I'll bid you all adieu. I've got some mindless dungeon running to do.
 

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for all we know alpha could be that pyro role thing that can detonate all the 'probes' and kill anyone probed. that was in a previous game right?
That seems far-fetched since duffie and alpha are in shenanigans, but the probes must have some effect

-hang on sometimes arsonists are duos: One to douse on to light or similar
 

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So question for you Jivvi, what makes Hunter's claim more believable to you?
*over Alpha's claim. Imo, Hunter's claim seems a little powerful to be true, though Alpha's claim isn't reasonable the way/speed he claimed. I don't trust either claim, so I'm hoping for some investigative role on one and a lynch on the other(which looks like Alpha at this point), I just don't want to end the day right now to try and gather some more information.
 

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also please, duffie, cut the filler. you're flooding the thread and drowning actual discussion. please at least present evidence or valid logic
And a lot of other people weren't many, amny, many pages of this thread ago?
if alpha flips mafia, jk duffie myu and Sam are gonna be in for a hell of a time
That's a bit of a baseless claim, and a rather radical one at that.
I can understand Duffie "having a bit of a hard time" due to the obvious from all the posts in the thread thus far, and yet you stretch such a broad view to simply people who don't agree, such as myself whose held the same opinion since the beginning.
Sam is a bit strange to be frank, as far as I can tell he's done nothing to warrant such a claim. In fact Sam is still putting together his own thoughts.
If such is not allowed, are we to fall once again into the claims that people should not be allowed to form their own thoughts and theories that so PREVALENTLY seems to be encompassed in this thread?

Numerous times, Hunter being one of the most obvious, trying to drown out other people's voices in this thread, the quote I just previously did is one such (and has been done in the past, why was that not called out upon but now is? I question.)
Jk, if the claim is do unbelievable why let him be

Like Defiant said; Alpha won't be unbiased.

Also the possible effect of the probes; they likely have an effect die to him only being able to probe once a night
First of all, I don't understand a word of what you meant in that final bit outside of Alien probably only having one probe per night.

But to answer your question, why let Alpha live?
Well... I also find Hunter's claim to be a bit silly and unbelievable. He won't even fully explain it and instead goes off to discuss other things and other topics, also, as you said previously and I quote:
"flooding the thread and drowning actual discussion"
which I might point out is one reason people had such a bad time with him thus far.

I also find Notty's claim strange, and that too is clouded in a veil of uncertainty.
He claimed cop, but now he also claimed it was apparently a third-party cop.
We could also say he wont be unbiased.
Who's to say we aren't ALL biased. Asking such a question will simply lead us in circles.

I must say, from the actions thus far, doubt has slowly been removed from my mind and I will not stand firm with my vote on Hunter, no matter the outcome, because I believe this is all very shady.
I base my vote on all the thoughts presented in the past (and yes these are generalizations)
-His jumpiness and almost "forgetfullness" to answer questions, which heavily implies he is only caring about specific parts of this thread, which also feels as a part of a plan. Ignoring arguments is easy and a valid strategy but scummy.
-Hypocriticalness, stating everything thus far is simply helping Mafia when it is just as good for town when not DROWNED in, as Hunter has also done.
-Strawmanning, blowing arguments out of proportion, stating hypothethicals constantly in an attempt to prove things that aren't even there
-A silly claim with no explanation and desperation.
Desperation can mean many things to different people, and no matter what in the past we cannot say for certain whether desperation implies town, third party, or Mafia. Desperation simply implies at this point that they are close to death.

But this claim, just as Alpha, just as Nottys, just as Duffies.
Holds no weight.
We can vote on the basis of their alignment, sure, thats easy. It's easy to claim town or third-party, and depending on the role it may also be easy to defend.
And yet somehow everyone walked away from Hunter after claiming simply to be "town." I know ender suddenly turned. To be that seems weird, there was no confrontation, no questioning about it. It simply became "fact" all of a sudden.

In fact that seems to be the case with a lot of our conjecture today. Somehow, someway, everything has ended up becoming "facts."

Hunter pushes his accusations away, we even saw this in the cussing out and desperation shown previously before his claim. He doesn't give insight or often opinions, he often seems to jump in with people and push the bandwagon alongside others as seen with Defiant, and now to an extent, Jivvi.​
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I'm sorry, but I cannot accept Hunter now as more "town friendly" than even Alpha or the others.
The fact that this claim is itself so "unbelievable" makes it even more curious that we actually don't even know what Alpha is, because in all probability, Alpha most likely is not an Alien.
...Although I cannot say what he may actually may be, as I do not know.

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For the record the only reason I'm going along with hunter is because we agree on this one thing. A lot of the counterdefence is random little stabs, sort of trying to make me seem a bit silly - less credible.

For instance, when Hunter and Defiant were drowning the thread I had my hands full catching

Essentially, you don't trust hunter to be town friendly si you automatically oppose his opinion that alpha should be lynched. It doesn't matter if alpha us lying or not: He's come under so much fire that a townie would have claimed
 

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Votecount 1.7 - the one where we change the votecount numbering


Alpha102 - 8 - Lee_Scar, endersteve5, Hunter27a1, Ltin, Jivvi, 77_is_the_best, timdood3, raxo2222

Hunter27a1 - 3 - Duffie, Alpha102, JKangaroo

No-Lynch - 2 - notykitten, myusername22

It takes 13 to lynch and 12 to no-lynch

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14hrs till deadline

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REMINDER:

This is a game, you ought to have fun.

'Personal Attacks' are tolerated to a certain extent, since they can be a required valid strategy, BUT I will begin to intervene if they get too harsh and beyond simply playing.
 
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Votecount 1.7 - the one where we change the votecount numbering


Alpha102 - 8 - Lee_Scar, endersteve5, Hunter27a1, Ltin, Jivvi, 77_is_the_best, timdood3, raxo2222

Hunter27a1 - 3 - Duffie, Alpha102, JKangaroo

No-Lynch - 2 - notykitten, myusername22

It takes 13 to lynch and 12 to no-lynch

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REMINDER:

This is a game, you ought to have fun.

'Personal Attacks' are tolerated to a certain extent, since they can be a required valid strategy, BUT I will begin to intervene if they get too harsh and beyond simply playing.
hours till deadline?
 
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