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notty's claim makes no sense. Joe Biden one shot vigilate..? Also why didn't notty immediately claim this if she already used her power to kill iggy to clear herself? I believe she killed iggy but rather as SK type of role.
That said Inffy's gun thing is also very weird. I've seenn gunners often but it always immediately tells when someone is shot. Quite shady if you ask me but I'm pretty sure notty is 3rd party.
 

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notty's claim makes no sense. Joe Biden one shot vigilate..? Also why didn't notty immediately claim this if she already used her power to kill iggy to clear herself? I believe she killed iggy but rather as SK type of role.
That said Inffy's gun thing is also very weird. I've seenn gunners often but it always immediately tells when someone is shot. Quite shady if you ask me but I'm pretty sure notty is 3rd party.
Agreed, her claim is suspicious as heck which is why I'm just waiting to see if anyone's going to cc her. She seemed to set up her defence as if she was expecting oog or erik to cc her, and set it up so that they'd look suspicious if they did so by saying it would make sense for them to which is why she waited to claim. She also just comes off as desperate in her posts and my vibes don't trust her one bit.

Why are you lying about having a gun?
I mean I can show you if you like ;)

But seriously why did you lie
 

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#1412-1416

https://escaperestart.com/forum/threads/capitalism-mafia.20920/page-57#post-406211

"I haven't read the thread which is why I thought nobody responded to my question which is why I town-read rune"

"I did read the thread and never said I didn't"

*shows him evidence of him saying he didn't read the thread*

"Oh yeah I did say I didn't read the thread"

So he lied about reading the thread when it was convenient for him to do so
 

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#1412-1416

https://escaperestart.com/forum/threads/capitalism-mafia.20920/page-57#post-406211

"I haven't read the thread which is why I thought nobody responded to my question which is why I town-read rune"

"I did read the thread and never said I didn't"

*shows him evidence of him saying he didn't read the thread*

"Oh yeah I did say I didn't read the thread"

So he lied about reading the thread when it was convenient for him to do so
Alright I forgot I posted I that, if you look back at the conversation I corrected myself very quickly, just not quicker than Infected's ninja posting skills.

But that being said, Infected supposedly has a gun, that he can shoot, and kill someone with, just not immediately and it won't show up till the end of the day.

Infected you can try and leverage me lying about how much of the thread I've read up on however much you want, but you sir are lying about a power you do not have, that makes you a liar AND a hypocrite.

And if I'm wrong, shoot me, I'm a vanilla town, if I die to validate another town PR thats a win in my book.

So shoot me Inf, shoot me with your invisible gun.
 

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Alright I forgot I posted I that, if you look back at the conversation I corrected myself very quickly, just not quicker than Infected's ninja posting skills.
You corrected yourself sure. I mean it was 2 minutes after my post which makes me extremely sceptical that you corrected it yourself rather than saw me prove you wrong and pretended to be honest but whatever. But my question is, why did you lie in the first place? Why did you say you read the thread when you hadn't? Or say you didn't read the thread when you had? Only one of those facts can be true yet you said both, meaning you lied. And townies have no reason to lie about things like that. So why did you lie?

And if I'm wrong, shoot me, I'm a vanilla town, if I die to validate another town PR thats a win in my book.

So shoot me Inf, shoot me with your invisible gun.
I'm pretty sure I'm already "validated" since the cop has me inno and whether or not I have a gun or not doesn't prove I'm not third party or whatever either.

I'll shoot you if I decide to later but I'm still aiming at notty right now.
 

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You corrected yourself sure. I mean it was 2 minutes after my post which makes me extremely sceptical that you corrected it yourself rather than saw me prove you wrong and pretended to be honest but whatever. But my question is, why did you lie in the first place? Why did you say you read the thread when you hadn't? Or say you didn't read the thread when you had? Only one of those facts can be true yet you said both, meaning you lied. And townies have no reason to lie about things like that. So why did you lie?


I'm pretty sure I'm already "validated" since the cop has me inno and whether or not I have a gun or not doesn't prove I'm not third party or whatever either.

I'll shoot you if I decide to later but I'm still aiming at notty right now.
SK can come up as Innocent on Cop reports~
 

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Yeah it definitely kills the person at the end of the day, and the shot is only announced by Jivvi at the end of the day. So it's not really a "information" thing where I shoot someone, everyone knows about it and we move onto another lynch, its like a one-shot day vigilante thing, which tbh makes me question your claim since it seems weird to have two one-shot town kills like that. But then again there is lots of anti-town roles in this game and we haven't had many PR claims so I guess I could see it making sense
Could you clarify how you got this power? Are you actually a power role that just gets a gun with 1 bullet (then how do you know that it works like that)? Did someone give you a gun?
 

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Could you clarify how you got this power? Are you actually a power role that just gets a gun with 1 bullet (then how do you know that it works like that)? Did someone give you a gun?
I've had the gun since the beginning of the game so it wasn't given to me by anyone, unless they chose it before the game started somehow.

I know it works like that because I asked Jivvi questions about it.

I also asked if my gun was part of just my role or if it was allocated to me randomly (meaning others may have been given a gun too like Mafia) and he refused to answer.
 

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I've had the gun since the beginning of the game so it wasn't given to me by anyone, unless they chose it before the game started somehow.

I know it works like that because I asked Jivvi questions about it.

I also asked if my gun was part of just my role or if it was allocated to me randomly (meaning others may have been given a gun too like Mafia) and he refused to answer.
(but i'm pretty sure there won't be more than one since that seems OP but it's possible I guess)
 

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Okay so I want to make a point since no one else is posting the questions anymore

Looking back, most people said they wanted to target the mafia. Now, there's likely 1-3 mafia left- but I highly doubt there's a team of 5 mafia + an autocrat + a serial killer in a single game, it just seems unbalanced against the town. I'm personally going to assume there's only 1 or 2 mafia members left.

That means there's potential for the autocrat to win. If there's only 1 mafia left, they could win today by lynching the last mafia. If there's 2 left, a mafia lynch + a bad kill by the serial killer could end the game, and not in a town victory. I think at this late stage, the autocrat is a greater threat, with the serial killer only being a threat due to unpredictability. If we can get rid of the autocrat today, either with the gun or a lynch, we'll be good to go.

The next thing is, erik's post convinced me that he is mafia. As far as I could tell, no one else wanted to target the autocrat, only he did- he could be mafia deflecting. His 'most suspicious' claim seems to be the most damning personally, as if he is trying to get Oog targetted. If he claimed Oog was suspicious like everyone else, I wouldn't have thought more of it. But he must have noticed all of the erik/oog mafia team posts by now. By not choosing Oog has his suspect, I think he's either A) on a mafia team with Oog and made a bad play in order to minimize suspicion on Oog or B) Mafia but not on a team with Oog and is trying to purposefully cast suspicion on him

Overall: I think erik is mafia, oog is 50% mafia or 50% framed, we should target autocrat today, and autocrat should be in one of the above posts where someone really, really wants mafia to die
 

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Yeah killing autocrat is the best move right now but it's difficult because we can't really pinpoint who we think is autocrat. Ideally I'd lynch autocrat but I don't really know who I think it is, all I know is that Oak/Notty don't seem town so it seems safe to lynch them but if people have a good idea of who autocrat is and can convince me then I'll join the vote on them. Right now I think it's most likely HK.
 

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Well the one post i had loaded up and ready to post was why exactly Notty found me and Oog suspicious but turns out you were just trying see catch if one of us slipped.
No I find you suspicious because you're one of the two Australians that are extremely likely to either have one or both be anti-town. Unless someone is trying to tell me litterally ALL anti-town are American somehow because that would be not just improbable but practically impossible.

None of you slipped but it doesn't matter since I firmly believe we'll find a Mafia when lynching Oog and a probably a second Mafia or at the very least an anti-town when lynching you.

It's easy to notice Notty is on all three of my lists. I just don't get a town read from their posts. I mentioned the sudden and (what seems to me) random new aggression take on with posts and it seems weird to me.

Strongest vibe for mafia duo rn though is Notty+Oak because of the dual aggression that seemed to be happening today. Not necessarily working together, but not against one another either.
I'm always aggressive like this (remember day 1 with Iggish), the only reason you think it's sudden is because I wasn't as active yesterday. Maybe a little bit more aggressive today than normal since day 3 tends to be the day where I proclaim #massclaim and want to get info out for the town to work with.

The 1-shot vigilante seems super random in this kind of setup. With TWG's claim, Infy's claim, and a previous One shot PR having died, this now makes seemingly 4 town one shot PR's. That makes no sense power balance wise IMO. Either TWG or Notty seem like they're lying or even both of them lying right now.
I'm going to chalk this up to you being anti-town and just wanting to get rid of me so you're spouting this nonsense. Because for one I haven't been CC'd yet, and two it makes perfect sense balance wise when the host wants the town to have an action but it would be unbalanced to have it every night so they make it X-shot instead.

notty's claim makes no sense. Joe Biden one shot vigilate..? Also why didn't notty immediately claim this if she already used her power to kill iggy to clear herself? I believe she killed iggy but rather as SK type of role.
That said Inffy's gun thing is also very weird. I've seenn gunners often but it always immediately tells when someone is shot. Quite shady if you ask me but I'm pretty sure notty is 3rd party.
It makes about as much sense as Bernie Sanders having a gun or marco rubio being a stalker, though I don't follow american politics that closely so for all I know everything is a perfect fit. As I explained in my claim post, I didn't claim immediately in the hopes someone would claim responsibility for the third night kill instead meaning I had a confirmed anti-town to CC.

Also why would the SK have 2 kills during one particular night that just seems not logical.

Agreed, her claim is suspicious as heck which is why I'm just waiting to see if anyone's going to cc her. She seemed to set up her defence as if she was expecting oog or erik to cc her, and set it up so that they'd look suspicious if they did so by saying it would make sense for them to which is why she waited to claim. She also just comes off as desperate in her posts and my vibes don't trust her one bit.
Ofcourse im slightly desperate. Not only is a gun pointed at my face and I'd rather not die, but you're the one doing it and you've been spouting accusations at me this entire game. I'm afraid you'll throw away all logic and shoot me anyways. And yes I was expecting Oog or Erik to claim some sort of vigilante role as they were the last ones to claim and I hadn't claimed yet so they might of thought they could get away with it, and I still am expecting Oog to CC me.

Okay so I want to make a point since no one else is posting the questions anymore

Looking back, most people said they wanted to target the mafia. Now, there's likely 1-3 mafia left- but I highly doubt there's a team of 5 mafia + an autocrat + a serial killer in a single game, it just seems unbalanced against the town. I'm personally going to assume there's only 1 or 2 mafia members left.

That means there's potential for the autocrat to win. If there's only 1 mafia left, they could win today by lynching the last mafia. If there's 2 left, a mafia lynch + a bad kill by the serial killer could end the game, and not in a town victory. I think at this late stage, the autocrat is a greater threat, with the serial killer only being a threat due to unpredictability. If we can get rid of the autocrat today, either with the gun or a lynch, we'll be good to go.
I disagree completely. From what Jivvi said they win if the Town wins, and since we have to get rid of the SK aswell to win it's natural to assume the autocrat has to aswell. I don't think today is the right day to try and lynch the autocrat(partially because that means people will try and vote me and mislynching is not something we can afford). 4/10 alive are anti-town and it doesn't seem right to try and lynch the one that doesn't have a nightkill. I think tomorrow after we've gotten rid of one or two anti-town via the gun and lynch we should focus on the autocrat, but for now I don't think any of us are as sure about who the autocrat is then about who the Mafia are so we shouldn't pray we lynch the autocrat but instead go for something more sure that will also be more effective.
 

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I disagree completely. From what Jivvi said they win if the Town wins, and since we have to get rid of the SK aswell to win it's natural to assume the autocrat has to aswell. I don't think today is the right day to try and lynch the autocrat(partially because that means people will try and vote me and mislynching is not something we can afford). 4/10 alive are anti-town and it doesn't seem right to try and lynch the one that doesn't have a nightkill. I think tomorrow after we've gotten rid of one or two anti-town via the gun and lynch we should focus on the autocrat, but for now I don't think any of us are as sure about who the autocrat is then about who the Mafia are so we shouldn't pray we lynch the autocrat but instead go for something more sure that will also be more effective.
What's the win condition for the SK? Survive until the end or kill all the town?
 

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Ofcourse im slightly desperate. Not only is a gun pointed at my face and I'd rather not die, but you're the one doing it and you've been spouting accusations at me this entire game. I'm afraid you'll throw away all logic and shoot me anyways. And yes I was expecting Oog or Erik to claim some sort of vigilante role as they were the last ones to claim and I hadn't claimed yet so they might of thought they could get away with it, and I still am expecting Oog to CC me.
Why were you expecting them to cc though? Surely it'd be unlikely that they'd claim a role they weren't just because noone else had claimed it since to their point of view it'd be obvious that someone had the role and just was staying quiet ready to cc them. I think you're expecting a cc because you're lying.
 
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