Tavern Arcana - Mafia Win

[Nottykitten]

There is though, especially now with the possibility of a choco lynch

But extended time is going to do nothing for us. It's the pressure of an impending deadline that makes people actually make a choice and vote. With 24 hours people are just gonna be like 'wow I won't vote since we might still have more to discuss' and then tomorrow at this exact time 8 hours away from the deadline we're in the exact same scenario with the exact same votes and no meaningfull discussion will have happened.

Atleast thats my prediction

 

[hipmeow]

There is though, especially now with the possibility of a choco lynch

all we need to do is decide on who to lynch. that doesnt require extending the deadline

 

[Unusual_Dood]

I find all 3 options shitty; I feel like Inffy's acting a little suspicious while I haven't actually disagreed with his posts, choco is screaming town to me and Notty I think will be able to prove himself later (or be killed). Idk, probs going to be between notty or inf for me, but havent made up my mind yet.
Also, when is the deadline ending?

 

[Nottykitten]

I find all 3 options shitty; I feel like Inffy's acting a little suspicious while I haven't actually disagreed with his posts, choco is screaming town to me and Notty I think will be able to prove himself later (or be killed). Idk, probs going to be between notty or inf for me, but havent made up my mind yet.
Also, when is the deadline ending?

9 PM GMT unless it gets extended. Why is Choco screaming town to you, because from my point of view his mindset of not caring about whether im town or not and still lynching me is pretty scummy.

Also can you even vote for anyone or are you only able to have a vote on yourself?

 

[Unusual_Dood]

Also can you even vote for anyone or are you only able to have a vote on yourself?

Why would I vote myself?

 

[Nottykitten]

Why would I vote myself?

Have you not seen the votecounts?

 

[Unusual_Dood]

I went pretty fast through the last 15 pages and apparently missed that, but it is probably connected to my role.

 

[hipmeow]

I went pretty fast through the last 15 pages and apparently missed that, but it is probably connected to my role.

only a FOOL would vote themselves so???

 

[Iggish]

only a FOOL would vote themselves so???

Nah, I think that would be too obvious.
I'd say that unu is the hangman and the fool is the fool.

 

[Nottykitten]

So everyone who wants this deadline extended what do you want to talk about

 

[Iggish]

So everyone who wants this deadline extended what do you want to talk about

I just think we should have time to think through what we're going to do, not have a panic lynch / votes near the end of the day.

 

[Aqua]

It's a race against time that makes it more exicting and challenging! Plus everyone knows when the deadline is it's after meeting time so any good community member should be around at that time!

You know how scummy this makes you sound, right?

Person with most votes doesn't want to give potential voters a chance to vote so they can live a night and do your scummy evil night action

 

[Guest35486]

Deadline will remain the same ˙•˙

Extensions are unlikely in the future

 

[Aqua]

But extended time is going to do nothing for us.

It gives people who haven't had an input yet to have a word.

Not everyone has voted, they deserve a chance to form their own opinion.

 

[Nottykitten]

You know how scummy this makes you sound, right?

Person with most votes doesn't want to give potential voters a chance to vote so they can live a night and do your scummy evil night action

I mean nobody wanted an extended deadline when I was being lynched =(

I dont see the point in 24 hours when people are going to hold back votes and then being in the exact same scenario tomorrow.

Not everyone has voted, they deserve a chance to form their own opinion.

I agree lets wait for kurizmah! Theres still plenty of hours to have a discussion

 

[Aqua]

Fuck it, I'm sure everyone agrees that a lynch on a suspect is more valuable than a no-lynch.

Since notty is still the most susp in my eyes and waited so long to make her inevitable claim which, tbh, looks like it's been thought through over and over to seem as innocent as possible; to make her look like a victim in this situation that town needs to protect I'm pretty sure she's lying.

Since an inf or choco lynch is unlikely to happen I implore people to hammer notty before the deadline.

 

[Aqua]

I agree lets wait for kurizmah! Theres still plenty of hours to have a discussion

*has voted since the whole notty vs inf vs choco thing happened

 

[Nottykitten]

Fuck it, I'm sure everyone agrees that a lynch on a suspect is more valuable than a no-lynch.

Except I'm probably your second strongest PR and that's just silly.

Since notty is still the most susp in my eyes and waited so long to make her inevitable claim which, tbh, looks like it's been thought through over and over to seem as innocent as possible; to make her look like a victim in this situation that town needs to protect I'm pretty sure she's lying.

I'm not a victim besides having to claim and I never said anything about being protected.

Since an inf or choco lynch is unlikely to happen I implore people to hammer notty before the deadline.

I implore people to not lynch one of their best PR's for the sake of lynching them and instead either consider voting choco/Inf or no lynch.

 

[Aqua]

Except I'm probably your second strongest PR and that's just silly.

I'm not a victim besides having to claim and I never said anything about being protected.


I implore people to not lynch one of their best PR's for the sake of lynching them and instead either consider voting choco/Inf or no lynch.

Implying that your claim was factual and is actually the "second strongest" pr

in a game of 23 players there could be multiple cops or other town PR roles that are also very useful.

You're trying to tug at heart strings without claiming to be the most important thing to town unless people would find that overly suspicious so you settled with second best.

If it is true, and that is your role, it's unfortunate, but that's like... basic obvious manipulation tactics m'dude.

And you didn't say anything about being protected but it's obviously infer-able

 

[Nottykitten]

Since notty is still the most susp in my eyes and waited so long to make her inevitable claim which, tbh, looks like it's been thought through over and over to seem as innocent as possible; to make her look like a victim in this situation that town needs to protect I'm pretty sure she's lying.

Also I waited because I didn't want bad people to know about my role.

I get that you find the whole not wanting to extend the deadline thing suspicious but I honestly think that it would just be 24 hours of nothing happening and a wasted time where tomorrow we'll be in the exact same situation, it's happened before.

Implying that your claim was factual and is actually the "second strongest" pr

in a game of 23 players there could be multiple cops or other town PR roles that are also very useful.

I find knowing about hidden game mechanics as they happen a pretty powerful power but thats opinion-based I guess.

You're trying to tug at heart strings without claiming to be the most important thing to town unless people would find that overly suspicious so you settled with second best.

Ofcourse I'm not the most important thing because a cop is much more valuable, and I'm not a cop so :thinking:

If it is true, and that is your role, it's unfortunate, but that's like... basic obvious manipulation tactics m'dude.

It truely is unfortunate if I get lynched but hey what can you do. I hope others don't see it like you where they're so set on lynching someone today that they settle for me since I have the most votes, instead of a better candidate like Choco who has shown a non-town mindset from what I've seen.

 

[Aqua]

Also I waited because I didn't want bad people to know about my role.

Why though? You 1000% knew you would get to 9 votes today, delaying claiming did nothing except give you time to think of the best claim possible.

It truely is unfortunate if I get lynched but hey what can you do. I hope others don't see it like you where they're so set on lynching someone today that they settle for me since I have the most votes, instead of a better candidate like Choco who has shown a non-town mindset from what I've seen.

I'm literally not; I have been leading the push against both you and inf and have kept switching depending on the numerous factors adding up to who needs to be pressured more and who is most suspicious. I tried to pressure you into claiming and you refused for no sensible reason, choco and inf both seem quite suspicious, but in inf's case he responded well to my questionings and pushing. I also believe he is mafia where as you are an anti town 3p so lynching him does not remove a possible nightkill on town from the game where as lynching you does.

Choco also looks scum to me so is in the same boat as inf.

You have brought this upon yourself, this isn't me tunnel visioning this is you misplaying.

 

[Unusual_Dood]

Did Inffy claim the paranoid?

 

[Nottykitten]

Why though? You 1000% knew you would get to 9 votes today, delaying claiming did nothing except give you time to think of the best claim possible.

Except I didn't. I was only on 6 votes and still pretty convinced the people who hadn't voted yet might side with me considering lynching me for having the tower card is kind of absurd in my eyes. Plus I didn't expect Hip to switch at all, once he did and I got 9 I knew I had to claim. Incase you didn't figure it yet I find my role pretty important and I was holding onto the hope I didn't have to claim.

I'm literally not; I have been leading the push against both you and inf and have kept switching depending on the numerous factors adding up to who needs to be pressured more and who is most suspicious. I tried to pressure you into claiming and you refused for no sensible reason, choco and inf both seem quite suspicious, but in inf's case he responded well to my questionings and pushing. I also believe he is mafia where as you are an anti town 3p so lynching him does not remove a possible nightkill on town from the game where as lynching you does.

Choco also looks scum to me so is in the same boat as inf.

You have brought this upon yourself, this isn't me tunnel visioning this is you misplaying.

I find my reason sensible but if you disagree thats your opinion, I simply wanted to wait and hope the offline people wouldn't vote for me. You're right an Inf lynch is kind of off the table but a Choco lynch is still very possible but it would ofcourse require your vote too and probs also Inf depending on what he's going to decide to do. That said if Inf doesn't go on Choco and keeps pushing for me it's still not a good idea to just lynch me

Did Inffy claim the paranoid?

That was a day0 joke post, he claimed the Hermit card though.

 

[Iggish]

No, The Hermit

 

[Aqua]

I find my reason sensible but if you disagree thats your opinion, I simply wanted to wait and hope the offline people wouldn't vote for me. You're right an Inf lynch is kind of off the table but a Choco lynch is still very possible but it would ofcourse require your vote too and probs also Inf depending on what he's going to decide to do. That said if Inf doesn't go on Choco and keeps pushing for me it's still not a good idea to just lynch me

I mean like I say if things do start sliding in his direction I would happily hammer if he doesn't have any reasonable defence other
than "¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

But as I said before removing an antitown 3p is higher priority than mafia.

Also

Plus I didn't expect Hip to switch at all

Really?

I mean he literally said he thought both of you were equally scummy and voted inf based on a coinflip, if you were more likely to be lynched why wouldn't he switch, this makes no sense.