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Lets break this down

Unu can only kill people that voted for him.

If we try to make use of this, we only need half of the people voting for him.

Mafia will never be in a majority in the game.

Meaning, that it is easily possible that if we try to lynch unu, the mafia simply wont vote for him, and thus his ability is useless.
There's some issues that I can see with this.

A) What's stopping the mafia from killing him at night?

B)If we use the lynching system to prob who's mafia or not there's a chance that a non-mafioso will be killed, which is bad. Like super bad. Best case scenario, there's only one mafia player left, which I highly doubt. Worst case scenario, there's 4 mafia players left, which means that they would need to off two more people to gain dominance in game. From there on out, we would likely lose unless third party players come to the aid of the town.
 

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Lets break this down

Unu can only kill people that voted for him.

If we try to make use of this, we only need half of the people voting for him.

Mafia will never be in a majority in the game.

Meaning, that it is easily possible that if we try to lynch unu, the mafia simply wont vote for him, and thus his ability is useless.
you'd be sacrificing two townies to get an unreliable list of people who might or might not be maf

lynch me instead, that way you'll get at least one anti-town
 

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A) What's stopping the mafia from killing him at night?
nothing, but that doesnt make his role more useful

B)If we use the lynching system to prob who's mafia or not there's a chance that a non-mafioso will be killed, which is bad. Like super bad. Best case scenario, there's only one mafia player left, which I highly doubt. Worst case scenario, there's 4 mafia players left, which means that they would need to off two more people to gain dominance in game. From there on out, we would likely lose unless third party players come to the aid of the town.
ye, too 4d chess to try and use this in any useful way.
 

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Can I just say, It would appear that there could be a Town and a Mafia version of some PR roles. For instance:

Notty & Rune = Role Blockers
Dess & Roob = Role Checkers
Ender & Unu = 'Hunters' (get to kill a player upon death)
Erik & Choco = 'Doctors'
Aqua & Whoever Death is = Vig
 

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K I'm back from school and need to do a few things before coming up with a full reply, but to keep it short I think Dess is lying about being a cop and that Roob was somehow bussed by an ACTUAL bussing mafia. Will explain more later but need time to actually eat food and formulate reply. Hammering me is worst thing town can do since (again) I'm our doctor atm and we seem to be in a mylo situation.
 

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K I'm back from school and need to do a few things before coming up with a full reply, but to keep it short I think Dess is lying about being a cop and that Roob was somehow bussed by an ACTUAL bussing mafia. Will explain more later but need time to actually eat food and formulate reply. Hammering me is worst thing town can do since (again) I'm our doctor atm and we seem to be in a mylo situation.
Curious that you think this after I can you out on lying but not when I said had a gut trust of you or even earlier than that
 

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Still not adament about a Mulb lynch since we don't know what Rune's ACTUAL PR is. He's claiming it's roleblocking but seeing as to how the mafia roleblockers already quite dead and I don't see there being a second one, I want to stick to lynching Rune.
I also would like to not that Erik was not fully for a mulb lynch (at least right here)
 

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What's a buss?
buss is everybody just joining a majority lynch

Fog, sorry to ask, but am I correct in saying that you have the random ability role, right? If so, could you lead us through the random abilities you've had so far?
Vote Block
Allignment Check
Watcher
Vote Block
 

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I lied about the definition of bussing. God why you all so serious
Wait is it something to do with throwing people under buses what like lindsay lohan did to that girl in Mean Girls?

Or the time Stephen King was hit by a car. Did you know that world-renowned writer Stephen King was once hit by a car? Just something to consider.
 

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Wait is it something to do with throwing people under buses what like lindsay lohan did to that girl in Mean Girls?

Or the time Stephen King was hit by a car. Did you know that world-renowned writer Stephen King was once hit by a car? Just something to consider.
She didn't throw Regina, she just didn't look both ways before crossing the road.

and Bussing is normally when a Mafia sided player will vote for a Mafia sided player in order to try and remove suspicion from themselves and make them seem Town sided
 

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K I'm back from school and need to do a few things before coming up with a full reply, but to keep it short I think Dess is lying about being a cop and that Roob was somehow bussed by an ACTUAL bussing mafia. Will explain more later but need time to actually eat food and formulate reply. Hammering me is worst thing town can do since (again) I'm our doctor atm and we seem to be in a mylo situation.
Any update on your formulated reply?
 

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I TOOK THE PHATTEST NAP IN THE WORLD AND FEEL GR8 OK.

So the first thing I'd like to clarify is that RUNE WAS SPREADING TOTAL BS.
First he says he can and will block me over the night. Then he doesn't and claims there's some "special reason" for it. Can i just remind everyone that he said he hadn't blocked ANYONE this whole game? It's like making a bullshit claim and then not having to back it up because no one can call you out on it. He then tried to throw away suspicion from himself by saying he "couldn't" block people unless a condition was met. I was kinda surprised I hadn't been blocked and then killed by the mafia. Then again, it makes more sense that Rune isn't a second mafia roleblocker (since notty already died) but something else. TL;DR: Rune was never a roleblocker but some other PR which can be given (or at least theorized) by his lack of ANY ROLEBLOCKING.

Moving on to Dess and Roob, I'm STILL more inclined to believe Roob (although I'll admit there's some personal bias because I saved him Night 3). One of the main things leading me to believe this was the fact that we don't actually have proof of Dess being a cop. All of the same investigations were ALSO CONVENIENTLY Roob's. Roob's actually had substance to his investigations while Dess has sorta just been piggybacking. And I did say i thought Dess was more suspicious then Roob before you can go back and check the posts if you like or i can quote it I don't mind.

Here's how thing's seem to have gone down in my mind. Dess or Rune is probably some sort of bus driver. Reason I'm bringing this up again is because Mulb originally brought it up. A mafia sided player brought up the idea of a bus driver and used it as a "cover up". Seems like a pretty good way to ACTUALLY hide a bus driver in the mafia team when people lynch the "supposed one" and think that's that and it was all just some BS story. I'm guessing the other is probably death who has a gunsmith like role or something along those lines. They then cover up and act like Rune is a roleblocker who then says he's gonna block me and that Dess is a rolecop. They bus Roob making him target me but think he targetted Rune and then Dess quickly calls Rune Temperance. The only issue with this is that Rune then died which is the one thing that doesn't make sense to me. It might've been to make me look more suspicious idk.

So as to why I didn't want to lynch or hammer Mulb, in my eyes Rune was CONFIRMED mafia. To me it didn't make sense to lynch someone who just seemed scum vs confirmed mafia. If anything, I think it's suspicious that Rune decided to change over and just hammer Mulb especially since that covers him up and makes him seem more innocent for bussing his godfather.

At this point, the lynch today should really be Roob vs Dess and deciding who's more likely to be mafia (and it should be Dess since he REALLY doesn't seem like a cop right now since he has no unique results). I will gladly test out Fog's ability though and

vote Dess
 

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I TOOK THE PHATTEST NAP IN THE WORLD AND FEEL GR8 OK.

So the first thing I'd like to clarify is that RUNE WAS SPREADING TOTAL BS.
First he says he can and will block me over the night. Then he doesn't and claims there's some "special reason" for it. Can i just remind everyone that he said he hadn't blocked ANYONE this whole game? It's like making a bullshit claim and then not having to back it up because no one can call you out on it. He then tried to throw away suspicion from himself by saying he "couldn't" block people unless a condition was met. I was kinda surprised I hadn't been blocked and then killed by the mafia. Then again, it makes more sense that Rune isn't a second mafia roleblocker (since notty already died) but something else. TL;DR: Rune was never a roleblocker but some other PR which can be given (or at least theorized) by his lack of ANY ROLEBLOCKING.

Moving on to Dess and Roob, I'm STILL more inclined to believe Roob (although I'll admit there's some personal bias because I saved him Night 3). One of the main things leading me to believe this was the fact that we don't actually have proof of Dess being a cop. All of the same investigations were ALSO CONVENIENTLY Roob's. Roob's actually had substance to his investigations while Dess has sorta just been piggybacking. And I did say i thought Dess was more suspicious then Roob before you can go back and check the posts if you like or i can quote it I don't mind.

Here's how thing's seem to have gone down in my mind. Dess or Rune is probably some sort of bus driver. Reason I'm bringing this up again is because Mulb originally brought it up. A mafia sided player brought up the idea of a bus driver and used it as a "cover up". Seems like a pretty good way to ACTUALLY hide a bus driver in the mafia team when people lynch the "supposed one" and think that's that and it was all just some BS story. I'm guessing the other is probably death who has a gunsmith like role or something along those lines. They then cover up and act like Rune is a roleblocker who then says he's gonna block me and that Dess is a rolecop. They bus Roob making him target me but think he targetted Rune and then Dess quickly calls Rune Temperance. The only issue with this is that Rune then died which is the one thing that doesn't make sense to me. It might've been to make me look more suspicious idk.

So as to why I didn't want to lynch or hammer Mulb, in my eyes Rune was CONFIRMED mafia. To me it didn't make sense to lynch someone who just seemed scum vs confirmed mafia. If anything, I think it's suspicious that Rune decided to change over and just hammer Mulb especially since that covers him up and makes him seem more innocent for bussing his godfather.

At this point, the lynch today should really be Roob vs Dess and deciding who's more likely to be mafia (and it should be Dess since he REALLY doesn't seem like a cop right now since he has no unique results). I will gladly test out Fog's ability though and

vote Dess
Yeah, nah.

VOTE NO MORE NAPS

source: I've been up for about 24 hours at this point, with at least another 6 hours to go. Kill me (irl not in game lol).
 

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Also considering we've now (to the best of my knowledge) identified who's who for cards, with the exception of the death card, I think there's a high p

I have a feeling there is a connection between the three mysterious deaths we've encountered over the last several days. I don't think it's a death after "n" number of posts unless you can state it (which would make sense as it would make people cautious of speaking from the small chance of being offed after one too many posts). I think I've cracked it, and it has something to do with the final post.

We can rule out them quoting someone as ooglie didn't quote anybody in his final post. We can rule out a certain time of day, as they all posted at different times (and what would be the point in a power like that tbh). No, I think it's far worse.

And I've already hinted earlier to everyone what I think it is.

Did you know that world-renowned writer Stephen King was once hit by a car? Just something to consider.

The above is SCP-2293. It's a cognitohazard in the spookypasta SCP-verse. There are standard memetic cognitohazards like the one above, and then there are deadly ones. Ones which, if observed or said or thought of, can kill a man.

I used an online word counter which counts the number of times a word is said in a string of text. Starting with the final posts made by aqua and runemen, I copied the output word counts and used the word counter on the two combined to find a common link. If it was a trigger word that killed them like I suspect, then it had to be in that post and that post alone.

Using the same process on several of their previous posts from that day, I found that there was only a SINGLE word shared between each of their last posts, not used in any of the other posts they made that day.

Death

I'm guessing that now you're getting desperate. It kinda shows. Either you or Rune was scum and it's unlikely that scum would off themselves when they have a higher chance of winning at this point.

so VOTE ERIK

TL;DR: Mental exhaustion allows me to jump through hoops and I'd rather do this than analyse another GODDAMN SPREADSHEET OF LUMINOUS INTENSITY OF AN LED IN MICROWATTS.
 
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