Tavern Arcana - Mafia Win

Unusual_Dood

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I mean in fairness I am a more powerful PR than Roob and one of my win conditions is based on RNG.
As cards are linked to alignment and roles, his role would give us a great input at who could be mafias and other third parties, and who is lying when two people are claiming the same role. You may get the abilities to find antitown as well, but doesn't always. At this point you are more useful, but that's only because we know who has which roles.
The only reason I claimed 3rd party is that I want to win and killing me off is not going to benefit either side as they won't get the numbers they need.
No. We don't know whether we can trust you or not. You could team up with mafias in order to 'survive' and I doubt it would be a good idea to keep you much longer if we come to a point where we don't know who to lynch.
 

Unusual_Dood

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Ugh, why do I keep forgetting what everyone's role is?
[xtable=skin1|612x@]
{tbody}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Player{/td}
{td=136x@}
Role{/td}
{td=103x@}
Tarot card{/td}
{td=218x@}
Tarot card meaning{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
(dead){/td}
{td=85x@}
Inffy{/td}
{td=136x@}
Survivor{/td}
{td=103x@}
The Hermit{/td}
{td=218x@}
Soul-searching, introspection, being alone{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
HKCaper{/td}
{td=136x@}
Mayor variant{/td}
{td=103x@}
The Emperor{/td}
{td=218x@}
Authority, father-figure, solid foundation{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
ChocoFox{/td}
{td=136x@}
Doctor{/td}
{td=103x@}
The High Priestess{/td}
{td=218x@}
Intuition, higher powers, subconscious mind{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Aqua{/td}
{td=136x@}
(cop){/td}
{td=103x@}
The Justice{/td}
{td=218x@}
Justice, fairness, truth, cause and effect, law{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Nottykitten{/td}
{td=136x@}
Mafia blocker{/td}
{td=103x@}
The Tower{/td}
{td=218x@}
Disaster, upheaval, sudden change, revelation{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Jivvi{/td}
{td=136x@}
Serial Killer{/td}
{td=103x@}
Strength{/td}
{td=218x@}
Strength, courage, patience, control, compassion{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Geekenstein{/td}
{td=136x@}
Lover{/td}
{td=103x@}
The Lovers{/td}
{td=218x@}
Love, union, choices, values alignment, relationships{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Comp{/td}
{td=136x@}
Lover{/td}
{td=103x@}
The Lovers{/td}
{td=218x@}
Love, union, choices, values alignment, relationships{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Ooglie{/td}
{td=136x@}
(a PR){/td}
{td=103x@}
The Chariot{/td}
{td=218x@}
Control, will power, victory, determination{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Mul{/td}
{td=136x@}
Godfather{/td}
{td=103x@}
The Devil{/td}
{td=218x@}
Bondage, addiction, materialism, sexuality{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
hipman500{/td}
{td=136x@}
Backup Mayor{/td}
{td=103x@}
The Empress{/td}
{td=218x@}
Fertility, femininity, beauty, nature, abundance{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Runemen4{/td}
{td=136x@}
Town Blocker{/td}
{td=103x@}
Temperance / (Death){/td}
{td=218x@}
Balance, moderation, patience, purpose, meaning{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Player{/td}
{td=136x@}
Role{/td}
{td=103x@}
Tarot card{/td}
{td=218x@}
Tarot card meaning{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
(alive){/td}
{td=85x@}
Ender{/td}
{td=136x@}
Fool + hunter{/td}
{td=103x@}
The Fool{/td}
{td=218x@}
A free spirit, innocence, spontaneity, beginnings{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
One one two{/td}
{td=136x@}
May once gain lynch-immunity{/td}
{td=103x@}
The Sun{/td}
{td=218x@}
Fun, warmth, success, positivity, vitality{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Fog{/td}
{td=136x@}
Get a rnd. ability (can backfire)*{/td}
{td=103x@}
The Wheel of Fortune{/td}
{td=218x@}
karma, life cycles, destiny, a turning point{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Dess{/td}
{td=136x@}
Role Cop{/td}
{td=103x@}
The Magician{/td}
{td=218x@}
Power, skill, concentration, action, resourcefulness{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
myusername22{/td}
{td=136x@}
Watcher{/td}
{td=103x@}
The World{/td}
{td=218x@}
Completion, integration, accomplishment, travel{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Iggish{/td}
{td=136x@}
Messenger{/td}
{td=103x@}
The Star{/td}
{td=218x@}
Hope, spirituality, renewal, inspiration, serenity{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Roobarb Pie{/td}
{td=136x@}
Role Cop{/td}
{td=103x@}
The Jugdement{/td}
{td=218x@}
Judgement, rebirth, inner calling, absolution{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Danni122112{/td}
{td=136x@}
(unclaimed){/td}
{td=103x@}
The Hierophant{/td}
{td=218x@}
Religion, group identification, conformity, tradition{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
Unusual_Dood{/td}
{td=136x@}
Self autovotes + hunter variant{/td}
{td=103x@}
The Hanged Man{/td}
{td=218x@}
Suspension, restriction, sacrifice, letting go{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
TheWeakGuy48_{/td}
{td=136x@}
May once self-protect{/td}
{td=103x@}
The Moon{/td}
{td=218x@}
Illusion, fear, anxiety, insecurity, subconscious{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=85x@}
erik5456{/td}
{td=136x@}
Backup PR**{/td}
{td=103x@}
Temperance / (Death){/td}
{td=218x@}
Balance, moderation, patience, purpose, meaning{/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
[/xtable]

*Day 1: Lost vote, Night 3: Watcher **Day 1: Became Doc and learned previous actions by the doctor
 

myusername22

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K, thanks for acknowledging the message.

What's your role again?
I'm the town's watcher. I visit someone and get a report of everyone else who has visited them. \


Anyway, onto my post. I guess I don't really have as much to say as I thought since after I've caught up it seems like many people share my same feelings, but here it goes:

First there's almost no way erik can be innocent. he lied about his role claim which means he is death (unless he claimed a different mafia member's card, which is a possibility, but would obviously expose a mafia member) Sure, one could argue that rune could have been death and erik innocent, but this whole situation feels like a repeat of yesterday where Ooglie died and Mul was the remaining CC. Not to mention the theories people have been throwing around about people dying after saying the word death and that being one of death's abilities. I think this theory makes a lot of sense to me and I feel 90% confident that erik is probably death and has been performing these kills somehow. Only thing that I think is weird with that is that I thought rune was going to roleblock erik, but maybe he changed his mind at the last minute. (this could suggest we should lynch roob before erik, but I think that their both confirmed mafia at this point anyway.

Ontop of that Erik has claimed an incredibly unlikely role. I feel that the role isn't necessarily impossible, but it's incredibly rare and unlikely.

I also feel that roob is definitely mafia.

Why did he just claim out of nowhere in the beginning?
I think he is the mafia sided role cop. I think he and dess have the same role, but different alignments. I feel that he just claimed in the beginning to get his card known and to get his role established so he didn't look suspicious in a mass claim later. I don't know if he knew someone in the town had the same role when he claimed, but I feel it's very strange that he stayed alive for all this time. He now claims to be a 3rd party, but the mafia generally don't know who is 3rd party or not, and besides even if they did they'd have no reason to let a 3rd party cop run around and risk exposing some of their own members since they needed to conceal the devil's role card (And I'm going to assume Erik is the devil and is also mafia sided) which means that if roob were 3rd party he would've been killed anyway. Not to mention his recent changes and arguments just look scummy in my eyes.

as far as other suspicions go, I'm getting a strong Vibe on Danni at this point. for a lot of the pages I've been skimming and haven't been taking great notes lately, so I can't really point to any specific posts, but a lot of his arguments just don't add up for me, and I can't really understand a lot of the things he's been suggesting. I feel like he's been defending scum at odd points, but i'd have to go back and check for references to show some specific cases.

More importantly though, I'm suspicious of him for wanting to lynch ender today. With Notty and Mul dead and the mafia losing at least 1 member soon (2 if we assume erik is mafia) the mafia realize this isn't going well. lynching ender is something I would really expect a panicking mafia to do since it at the very least lowers the towns numbers a bit and delays them from getting killed. We have 2 practically guaranteed anti town in front of us and he wants to kill ender? It just doesn't make any sense from a townie perspective. I'm not saying we should lynch him at this time since we have erik and roob first and more information could easily surface in these next two days, but I'm just a little suspicious of him right now.

Just wanted to throw some of my thoughts out there.

VOTE ERIK
 

Jolterino

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[BCOLOR=transparent]Day 4 - Vote Count reeeeeeeeeeeee[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Unusual_Dood (1): Unusual_Dood[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]erik5456 (4): Dess, One one two, Fog, myusername22[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Enderfive (1): Enderfive[/BCOLOR]

[BCOLOR=transparent]With 11 players alive, it takes 6 players to lynch and 6 players to no lynch.[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]If the required vote amount is not reached by the deadline, the player with the most votes will be lynched.[/BCOLOR]
 

Unusual_Dood

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(Bold)vote erik
[BCOLOR=transparent]Day 4 - Vote Count reeeeeeeeeeeee[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Unusual_Dood (1): Unusual_Dood[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]erik5456 (4): Dess, One one two, Fog, myusername22[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Enderfive (1): Enderfive[/BCOLOR]

[BCOLOR=transparent]With 11 players alive, it takes 6 players to lynch and 6 players to no lynch.[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]If the required vote amount is not reached by the deadline, the player with the most votes will be lynched.[/BCOLOR]
vote Erik

I think that’s a lynch
 
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Guest35486

Guest
Day 4 - Vote Count
Unusual_Dood (1): Unusual_Dood
erik5456 (6): Dess, One one two, TheWeakGuy48_, Fog, myusername22, Unusual_Dood
Enderfive (1): Enderfive

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 players to lynch and 6 players to no lynch.
If the required vote amount is not reached by the deadline, the player with the most votes will be lynched.


The room closes in on erik5456 and puts them in a noose. The card that falls out of their hand is Death, along with Justice (Aqua), The Chariot (Ooglie101), and Temperance (Runemen4)
Win Condition: Living Mafia players make up half or more of the living players without any possible threats
> Night Action: Target a player, if they utter the words “death” in any part of their posts (excluding quotes) in the next day, they instantly die
Players that die to Death's ability do not have their roles or alignments revealed on death, their roles and alignments are however revealed on Death's death
Win Condition: All threats to town are eliminated
> Night Action: [One time use action] Target one player, they are killed
Win Condition: All threats to town are eliminated
> Night Action: Target one player, they are roleblocked but any night actions that affect them also affect you
Win Condition: All threats to town are eliminated
> Passive: If killed by a Night Action, the killer loses their next Night Action

---

It is now Night 5. If you have a night action, please send it in by 7 PM GMT, 9 April. (Monday) The day will start by 8 PM GMT of the same day.​
 
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Guest35486

Guest
The lights flicker on. You gasp with horror as Roobarb Pie and One one two’s blood stain the ground. Their cards are Judgement and The Sun, respectively.

The doors unlock, and you glance up hopefully. You've finally won. You did it. Wiping away the single tear you shed, you start towards the door, only to be blocked by one of the staff.

"Not you," they stated, cold eyes looking down.

Fog strides towards the door, confident and victorious. With a quick slam, the door closed behind the Wheel of Fortune.
Win Condition: Living Mafia players make up half or more of the living players without any possible threats
> Night Action: Target one player, you receive their role name at the end of the night
Win Condition: All threats to town are eliminated
> Night Action: [One time use action] Prevent yourself from getting lynched in the next day
(If you reach the total votes needed to be lynched, the day ends and you do not die)
Win Condition: Use 4 different Powers or Survive
> Night Action: Every night, spin the wheel and gain a Power.
Power: Select a target,
1: Kill your target
2: Protect your target
3: Roleblock your target
4: Show your targets alignment
5: Show your targets role name
6: Prevent your target from voting the following day
7: Send an anonymous message to your target
8: See if your target visited anyone or if anyone visited your target.
> Hidden: If you roll the same power twice in a row, roll an additional power.

---​

Living Players:
Danni122112
Enderfive
Iggish
myusername22
Dess
TheWeakGuy48_
Unusual_Dood

---

It is now Day 5, which will last 5 days. The deadline is at 6 PM GMT, 14 April. (Saturday)
With 7 players alive, it takes 4 players to lynch and 4 players to no lynch.
If the required vote amount is not reached by the deadline, the player with the most votes will be lynched.​
 

Iggish

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Ok so basically at this point in the game, I can be safe in assuming that Dess, myuser and unu are town-sided. Ender is third party.
So in my opinion we should lynch between Danni and TWG.

Danni supported Notty and has been quite aggressive.
TWG has a suspicious tarot card and has seemed quite off.

I'm not sure who I'd prefer. Also maybe we should consider an Ender lynch so he doesn't fuck us up tomorrow in the case that there are two mafia left.
 

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Updated claimed/confirmed role table

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{tr}
{td=75x@}
(dead){/td}

{td=80x@}
Player{/td}

{td=143x@}
Role{/td}

{td=103x@}
Tarot card{/td}

{td=214x@}
Tarot card meaning{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Died night 1{/td}

{td=80x@}
Inffy{/td}

{td=143x@}
Survivor{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Hermit{/td}

{td=214x@}
Soul-searching, introspection, being alone{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Died night 1{/td}

{td=80x@}
HKCaper{/td}

{td=143x@}
Mayor variant{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Emperor{/td}

{td=214x@}
Authority, father-figure, solid foundation{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Lynched day 1{/td}

{td=80x@}
ChocoFox{/td}

{td=143x@}
Doctor{/td}

{td=103x@}
The High Priestess{/td}

{td=214x@}
Intuition, higher powers, subconscious mind{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Killed day 2{/td}

{td=80x@}
Aqua{/td}

{td=143x@}
1-shot vig{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Justice{/td}

{td=214x@}
Justice, fairness, truth, cause and effect, law{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Lynched day 2{/td}

{td=80x@}
Nottykitten{/td}

{td=143x@}
Mafia blocker{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Tower{/td}

{td=214x@}
Disaster, upheaval, sudden change, revelation{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Died night 3{/td}

{td=80x@}
Jivvi{/td}

{td=143x@}
Serial Killer{/td}

{td=103x@}
Strength{/td}

{td=214x@}
Strength, courage, patience, control, compassion{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Died night 3{/td}

{td=80x@}
Geekenstein{/td}

{td=143x@}
Lover{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Lovers{/td}

{td=214x@}
Love, union, choices, values alignment, relationships{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Died night 3{/td}

{td=80x@}
Comp{/td}

{td=143x@}
Lover{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Lovers{/td}

{td=214x@}
Love, union, choices, values alignment, relationships{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Killed day 3{/td}

{td=80x@}
Ooglie{/td}

{td=143x@}
Town blocker{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Chariot{/td}

{td=214x@}
Control, will power, victory, determination{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Lynched day 3{/td}

{td=80x@}
Mulbery{/td}

{td=143x@}
Godfather{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Devil{/td}

{td=214x@}
Bondage, addiction, materialism, sexuality{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Died night 4{/td}

{td=80x@}
hipman500{/td}

{td=143x@}
Backup Mayor{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Empress{/td}

{td=214x@}
Fertility, femininity, beauty, nature, abundance{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Killed day 4{/td}

{td=80x@}
Runemen4{/td}

{td=143x@}
Removes ability to killer at death{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Temperance{/td}

{td=214x@}
Balance, moderation, patience, purpose, meaning{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Lynched day 4{/td}

{td=80x@}
erik5456{/td}

{td=143x@}
Targets die when “death” is said{/td}

{td=103x@}
Death{/td}

{td=214x@}
Endings, beginnings, change, transformation{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Won night 5{/td}

{td=80x@}
Fog{/td}

{td=143x@}
Get a random ability{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Wheel of Fortune{/td}

{td=214x@}
karma, life cycles, destiny, a turning point{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Killed night 5{/td}

{td=80x@}
Roobarb Pie{/td}

{td=143x@}
Mafia Role Cop{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Jugdement{/td}

{td=214x@}
Judgement, rebirth, inner calling, absolution{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
Killed night 5{/td}

{td=80x@}
One one two{/td}

{td=143x@}
May once gain lynch-immunity{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Sun{/td}

{td=214x@}
Fun, warmth, success, positivity, vitality{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
(alive){/td}

{td=80x@}
Player{/td}

{td=143x@}
Role{/td}

{td=103x@}
Tarot card{/td}

{td=214x@}
Tarot card meaning{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
{/td}

{td=80x@}
Ender{/td}

{td=143x@}
Fool + hunter{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Fool{/td}

{td=214x@}
A free spirit, innocence, spontaneity, beginnings{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
{/td}

{td=80x@}
myusername22{/td}

{td=143x@}
Watcher{/td}

{td=103x@}
The World{/td}

{td=214x@}
Completion, integration, accomplishment, travel{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
{/td}

{td=80x@}
Iggish{/td}

{td=143x@}
Messenger{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Star{/td}

{td=214x@}
Hope, spirituality, renewal, inspiration, serenity{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
{/td}

{td=80x@}
Dess{/td}

{td=143x@}
Role Cop{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Magician{/td}

{td=214x@}
Power, skill, concentration, action, resourcefulness{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
{/td}

{td=80x@}
Danni122112{/td}

{td=143x@}
(unclaimed){/td}

{td=103x@}
The Hierophant{/td}

{td=214x@}
Religion, group identification, conformity, tradition{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
{/td}

{td=80x@}
Unusual_Dood{/td}

{td=143x@}
Self autovotes + hunter variant{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Hanged Man{/td}

{td=214x@}
Suspension, restriction, sacrifice, letting go{/td}

{td=17x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=75x@}
{/td}

{td=80x@}
TheWeakGuy48_{/td}

{td=143x@}
May once self-protect{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Moon{/td}

{td=214x@}
Illusion, fear, anxiety, insecurity, subconscious{/td}

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Enderfive

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righto

if there's three maf alive, i suggest the maf lynch me: i win, you win, we're golden

if there's two maf alive, i suggest the town lynch me, because a mislynch would result in the town's loss. as thanks, i will shoot whoever i think is most likely to be maf when i die

if there's one maf alive, i suggest the town lynch me, because you will most likely mislynch anyway, given the town to maf ratio in this case. as thanks, i will shoot whoever i think is most likely to be maf when i die and you either win or end up with one less suspect to consider for a lynch the following day

if there are any third parties left whose win con is to survive until game end, i suggest you vote to lynch me, because the two deaths that my lynch brings will take you significantly closer to endgame than just a lynch

basically, it is mechanically useful for pretty much everyone to lynch me today

you know you want to do it, so just do it
 

Unusual_Dood

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2 mafias left would be the best bet in my opinion, and Ender as the last third party. It was very interesting that Roob(mafia) died during the night and I am thinking that it might have been caused by that Fog gained a kill ability and chose Roob. Another interesting thing this night was that One one two was killed, since he didn't have a very useful role and was not confirmed or had much influence in towns decisions.

I believe the best way to deal with Ender is to try to make a deal with him. For instance, if he helps us lynch a mafia this night, we will lynch him next day.
I am the Moon, once per game I can use my ability to be protected during the night. It is the exact opposite from what 112 claimed. However I used my ability last night. I have no idea if it had any impact, but I will reveal that "something" happened to me and my role. I wish to not reveal what happened.
Also, I believe it is time to tell us what this "something" is TheWeak and Danni you should claim.
 

Enderfive

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I believe the best way to deal with Ender is to try to make a deal with him. For instance, if he helps us lynch a mafia this night, we will lynch him next day.
this would be a bad deal for me and i would not take it

you either lynch me today or i vote in the most anti-town way possible that i see having any impact

keep in mind that if i force a mislynch today the town is screwed
 
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