Tavern Arcana - Mafia Win

[Iggish]

I really cant be bothered to dig up more info on why you are scum.

You have fuck all. At least put a bit of fucking effort in because we're probably in a mylo situation. If the town gets this lynch wrong, like they will if they lynch me, then we're fucked.
Digging up more info implies that you have done some digging. You've done jack shit.
Could you tell me why you were suspicious of me before this day and if you were, why you didn't mention it?

However, you are missing a large part about this. My other options are Unu and MYusername. I do not have any better arguments for those. That leaves me with you? What other option is there? Don't say Ender. Don't try to paint me black. Unu and myusername are my other options, for myusername its between you and unu, for unu its between you and mysername. There is a reason you are being lynched now, and not three days ago. You have not been extremely supicious in the past, but close to everytihng you have typed today, has been.

You have no arguments for me either. You're only going after me because I was going after you. You haven't probed unu and myuser at all. You're tunnel visioning me. "What option is there?" You literally said that you are 90% sure that I am mafia but this hints at me being mafia because of fucking elimination? That is a shit reason. There is no valid reason that I am being lynched now, you're just painting me as scum for everybody and combined with the few posts I made earlier today where I got confused about the watcher and my brain going on autopilot, it seems like I am suspicious. If you actually look deeper however, I'm not scummy and your reasons have very little backing. Or they would anyway, if you actually gave proper reasons that weren't "I'm the only cop claim, you must be mafia because you are pushing me".

No, stop manipulating people. Not everything I have said today has been suspicious. Just stop with that.

If you were the most supicious, you would be dead already, but UNU has two options, Myusername has two, I have three. Dess has three. TWG has three, Ender has three. Out of the three options we have, or in some cases, two, you are the most suspicous.

But why am I the most suspicious. I'm almost sure that basically no-one has even mentioned a myuser or unu lynch.

 

[Iggish]

I do not want to spend my time replying to more of what iggish types, I do not see a reason to at this point.

You don't see a reason. Maybe you could actually respond to my points instead of just putting half a paragraph underneath one of my quotes to make it look like you answered. Why don't you see a reason. We are in a fucking mylo situation and you're not even trying to quantify why you think I am suspicious.

 

[Danni122112]

I think the way you have acted today, (for others, read through everything iggish has typed today, especially between me and Iggish) is scummy.

I have said many times Iggish I think that you going for me, instead of finding someone that might actually be mafia, is very scummy. Your logic for me not being cop, is not stronger than the arguments for me being cop.

 

[Danni122112]

We are in a fucking mylo situation and you're not even trying to quantify why you think I am suspicious.

You do not know that, unless you know, and if you know, I still want to lynch you, thank you.

 

[Iggish]

The card allignment is very interesting.
The hermi was not a mafia card, by the way.
Devil and Death are obvs scum cards. Tower could be argued, but was also mostly scummy.
However, The magician was stated pretty early as being a possibly scum card, so what did I do? I checked. Dess is townie.
The moon was my main suspcioun card after that, however I checked, he is town.
You can argue all you want, all day, but Dess and TWG I got town reads on.

I am trying to explain why I find your claim dubious. It just seems to convenient and doesn't fit the narrative of the game thus far. The hermit was an anti-town card. The Moon card is much scummier than the Magician IMO, so I wouldn't put them on equal footing.

 

[Iggish]

I think the way you have acted today, (for others, read through everything iggish has typed today, especially between me and Iggish) is scummy.

I have said many times Iggish I think that you going for me, instead of finding someone that might actually be mafia, is very scummy. Your logic for me not being cop, is not stronger than the arguments for me being cop.

So what exactly do you mean by not tryign to find "real mafia". I have accused 3 people today, mainly you and TWG. The only other options according to you that we should "go after" are myuser and unu, who you haven't touched yourself. I have done plenty of scum hunting today.

Yes, I invite people to actually read, what has been said and not just dwell upon me being confused for 20 minutes. It will show that Danni is manipulating people into thinking that I am scum, going after me because I accused him and not even glancing at anyone else.

I have given arguments why you are suspicious and those arguments do not add up with a cop claim. That is why I am suspicious. You have been defending and have been defended by confirmed mafias, been aggressive, lasted a long time in the game without being killed while dropping easy hints and have got an inno report on someone else who I find scummy. I'm hardly just going to roll over on my belly and affect the fact that you are 100% an innocent townie when you have that evidence against you.

 

[Danni122112]

I am trying to explain why I find your claim dubious.

But there should still be a cop on the game, yes?

doesn't fit the narrative of the game thus far

Disagree.

The hermit was an anti-town card

Third party, not neccesarily anti town, they are third party, not mafia.

The Moon card is much scummier than the Magician IMO,

Agree, reason for checking dess first, was just that he was mor evocal in the game, and we were following his lead.

 

[Iggish]

You do not know that, unless you know, and if you know, I still want to lynch you, thank you.

We most likely are. IIRC other people seem to think so as well. You're going after me without even looking at unu and myusername which is ludicrous when me being mislynched could end the game. It seems liek you have put very little thought into today and instead, are just tunnel visioning me.

 

[Danni122112]

I have accused 3 people today, mainly you and TWG.

I am Cop, so these are both wrong.

The only other options according to you that we should "go after" are myuser and unu, who you haven't touched yourself

I found you more scummy, and for every message you type, more so. If you find them more scummy than yourself, convince me.

manipulating people

right, I have answered your question, thuroghly, for the last 4+ pages, with good reasons, and with posts of decent length, I highly disagree with this.

 

[Iggish]

But there should still be a cop on the game, yes?

I don't know. On the face of it, yes, but the scummy stuff you have done is not what I would associate with a cop. You could also be a crazy cop of some kind as well. Or a mafia investigative role. You could've waited to be the last to claim just for this reason, so you wouldn't be counterclaimed.

 

[Danni122112]

got an inno report on someone else who I find scummy

And also one from Rune, who we know is town, I provided good reasons for roob saying what he did, and your answer to that, ended up you arging for me being town??

Like you cant bring this up, when you faield to bring it to a proper conclusion last game, without saying anything more.

 

[Danni122112]

You have been defending

I replied to this before, with a decently sized post.

 

[Guest35486]

[BCOLOR=transparent]Day 5 - Vote Count [/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Unusual_Dood (1): Unusual_Dood[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Enderfive (1): Iggish[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Iggish (1): Enderfive[/BCOLOR]

[BCOLOR=transparent]With 7 players alive, it takes 4 players to lynch and 4 players to no lynch.[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]If the required vote amount is not reached by the deadline, the player with the most votes will be lynched.[/BCOLOR]

 

[Iggish]

Disagree.

How does it not fit the narrative??????
Scummy Cards = Scummy Alignment from what we have seen. How can you deny this. There could be exceptions but what you are saying here is that TWG's scummy card not actually being scummy does not fit what has been happening this game, which is wrong.
Death = Mafia
Devil = Mafia
Tower = Mafia
Hermit = Third Party

There is an obvious link here and you're just being stubborn if you refuse to accept it.

Third party, not neccesarily anti town, they are third party, not mafia.

But anti-town = not with the town doesn't it? They have interests separate to that of the town's and don't care what happens to it.

Agree, reason for checking dess first, was just that he was mor evocal in the game, and we were following his lead.

Mhm, ok.

 

[Enderfive]

we're probably in a mylo situation

mylo is mechanically impossible at this moment

 

[Danni122112]

I don't know. On the face of it, yes, but the scummy stuff you have done is not what I would associate with a cop. You could also be a crazy cop of some kind as well. Or a mafia investigative role. You could've waited to be the last to claim just for this reason, so you wouldn't be counterclaimed.

Mafia already had a role cop, an allignment cop in addition to that would be number one pretty useless for mafia (they know who each other are), and as said, they already have a cop.

An allignment cop would be village sided. Your arguments are falling short, again.

A crazy cop? All my previous investigation have added up so far, I highly doubt im crazy.

We have strong evidence for having a Cop. The Godfather role, which again, proved that the Cop role is not mafia sided.

Provide better arguments for there not being a Cop, or find me another Cop.

I have discussed enough with you about my previous actions, and answered most of them pretty well, please show me where our cop is, or why we shouldnt have one

 

[Iggish]

I am Cop, so these are both wrong.

Are you being serious right now??? Do you know perspective works? You may be cop for all I know but how can you not see how I think you are scummy and how the cop claim doesn't align with your result?

I found you more scummy, and for every message you type, more so. If you find them more scummy than yourself, convince me.

I haven't even looked into them yet today as I have been so focused on you two. They could easily be scum though, and I will go back and check. Atm I'm tentatively saying that Unu is more likely to be scum than myuser.
But you haven't even looked into them (I don't think I am being hypocritical here are the situations are quite different). How can you not even look into them when we are probably facing a mylo?
How am I being scummier with every message? I am explaining myself whilst you aren't properly quantifying your suspicions on me.

right, I have answered your question, thuroghly, for the last 4+ pages, with good reasons, and with posts of decent length, I highly disagree with this.

And I highly disagree with this.

 

[Danni122112]

t just seems to convenient and doesn't fit the narrative of the game thus far

Disagree.

How does it not fit the narrative??????

Your answer below this, does not add up to what I disagreed to.

But anti-town = not with the town doesn't it? They have interests separate to that of the town's and don't care what happens to it.

Foggy helped us. I helped town last game as third party. Inffy scum hunted notty. Ender is currently helping town (I think)
"anti town"

 

[Iggish]

And also one from Rune, who we know is town

What? What are you talking about?

I provided good reasons for roob saying what he did, and your answer to that, ended up you arging for me being town??

What point are you making here. I made a mistake. Just because you answer a question, it doesn't make the point invalid. Roob thought he wasn't going to die as he was trusted and as far as he knew, there were no more night kill roles left. He tried to brush some of that trust which he had gained off on you.

Like you cant bring this up, when you faield to bring it to a proper conclusion last game, without saying anything more.

What the fuck are you talking about?

 

[Danni122112]

Are you being serious right now??? Do you know perspective works? You may be cop for all I know but how can you not see how I think you are scummy and how the cop claim doesn't align with your result?

I do not have a better answer Iggish, as I said before, it was a reason I checked those specific cards, if you are town, be fucking happy I did. Go tag claire and yell that she is bad at setting cards to mafia, maybe the mafia has has godfasther, godgrandpa and godgrandma for all I know.

I got these results. God father is dead. I see nor eason to believe otherwise.

 

[Danni122112]

nto them when we are probably facing a mylo?

ender just said we are not

 

[Iggish]

I replied to this before, with a decently sized post.

So what? It doesn't make the point invalid.

 

[Danni122112]

But you haven't even looked into them (I don't think I am being hypocritical here are the situations are quite different). How can you not

I have very little to go on, from previous days, just as I had with you, but my got said you. Your responses today, do not add up, ender agreed with me, that is my reasoning.

 

[Danni122112]

How am I being scummier with every message? I am explaining myself whilst you aren't properly quantifying your suspicions on me.

A lot of what you are saying is not adding up, you are still refusing to realize that I am the cop, for god knows what reason.

 

[Danni122112]

What? What are you talking about?

Check rune's last post.