Tavern Arcana - Mafia Win
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Danni122112
The Drunk
Well, if you are villager, yeah, but do you understand why I see you as suspicious? I have asked you, several times to provide someone else I would rather put my vote on, that will not be myself.
You are literally trying to lynch the cop. That is scummy.
If you wanted to not get lynch, defend what I accuse you off, and provide lynch reasons for a better target.
I got a three person pool, that you can chose from if you want to change my opinion, You, Unu, and myuser.
Unless you chose another person, that I should rather lynch, it stays for you.
I'm trying to lynch ender atm, not you. Ender is an option you can vote for.
Danni are you being serious? I've been defending myself all day and have gotten nowhere.
Tomorrow I'll look back and into my username and unu.
Danni122112
The Drunk
You do not thing I am Cop, which makes me mafia.
You do not want to lynch me, but rather ender (???)
You do not try to convince me to vote for Unu or myusername, to try to convince me that anyone else than you are the mafia, instead you defend yourself, attack me, and want to vote ender. I do not understand the logic behind this, and this makes me more likely to vote for you.
Dess how is that post coming along?
So this post is going to be a bit lackluster be heregoes...
First off I fully believe Danni's claim as cop. Iirc he flat out said he trusted roob over me a back in day 3 and then I believe come day 4 he said he trusted me 100%. This lines up with his claim as visiting me that night. And because of the existence of a grandfather role that appears as inno there has to be a cop for this and it is very very unlikely that that would have impacted my role when my role specifically states that I don't investigate people but instead discover their card name. Hence if I visited mulb I would have received her card role of devil.
Regarding this stuff going on with iggish. I think at the moment he is the best person to lynch. Danni is the best possible person we have for town right now and even if the possibility that he is lying exists it would be a foolish move to try to lynch him when the possibility of truth exists. From what i have seen, Iggish seems to be pushing really hard right now when this has not been how he has acted most of the game.
After rereading the pages Iggish if anything flipped his votes and his stances a large amount of times. First being willing to lynch inffy, then being for a no-lynch. Then saying that it was incredibly likely that notty was mafia but not wanting to vote yet. Which yes, I will concede and say that the next day you voted notty most of the day but still your opinions flipping often set up red flags for me. This in addition to your belief that the mafia has a watcher, which while it makes sense, does make me question it. ESPECIALLY after you said you thought Arelic was the watcher / in the game. Furthermore, this push on Danni has just been off to me because as stated above he is best town role at the time. I am getting very VERY strong anti town vibes from you at the moment. This being said could you please reclaim your role, which I believe is star, and what your night action is.
As far as the rest of the day goes. I definitely think that the right call is lynching iggish. After all even if it is a mislynch today we shouldn't lose immediately. This being said, we are all under the assumption that Danni is going to die tonight so Danni I strongly recommend you investigate myusername tonight if in the off chance you are not called.
My username, I recommend that you watch Danni this way we can find out who targeted him at night and know exactly who mafia is.
Now yes any mafia member with a brain can figure that visiting Danni will be a bad decision and will ultimately get them killed which could mean that they might kill me, the person that Danni trusts the most at this point in the game.
So again the ONLY confirmed town people at this moment are Myself and TWG. Now while it is very very likely that Danni is town I do not trust him 100% but this is mafia, I would be a fool to trust anybody that much.
First off I fully believe Danni's claim as cop. Iirc he flat out said he trusted roob over me a back in day 3 and then I believe come day 4 he said he trusted me 100%. This lines up with his claim as visiting me that night. And because of the existence of a grandfather role that appears as inno there has to be a cop for this and it is very very unlikely that that would have impacted my role when my role specifically states that I don't investigate people but instead discover their card name. Hence if I visited mulb I would have received her card role of devil.
Regarding this stuff going on with iggish. I think at the moment he is the best person to lynch. Danni is the best possible person we have for town right now and even if the possibility that he is lying exists it would be a foolish move to try to lynch him when the possibility of truth exists. From what i have seen, Iggish seems to be pushing really hard right now when this has not been how he has acted most of the game.
After rereading the pages Iggish if anything flipped his votes and his stances a large amount of times. First being willing to lynch inffy, then being for a no-lynch. Then saying that it was incredibly likely that notty was mafia but not wanting to vote yet. Which yes, I will concede and say that the next day you voted notty most of the day but still your opinions flipping often set up red flags for me. This in addition to your belief that the mafia has a watcher, which while it makes sense, does make me question it. ESPECIALLY after you said you thought Arelic was the watcher / in the game. Furthermore, this push on Danni has just been off to me because as stated above he is best town role at the time. I am getting very VERY strong anti town vibes from you at the moment. This being said could you please reclaim your role, which I believe is star, and what your night action is.
As far as the rest of the day goes. I definitely think that the right call is lynching iggish. After all even if it is a mislynch today we shouldn't lose immediately. This being said, we are all under the assumption that Danni is going to die tonight so Danni I strongly recommend you investigate myusername tonight if in the off chance you are not called.
My username, I recommend that you watch Danni this way we can find out who targeted him at night and know exactly who mafia is.
Now yes any mafia member with a brain can figure that visiting Danni will be a bad decision and will ultimately get them killed which could mean that they might kill me, the person that Danni trusts the most at this point in the game.
So again the ONLY confirmed town people at this moment are Myself and TWG. Now while it is very very likely that Danni is town I do not trust him 100% but this is mafia, I would be a fool to trust anybody that much.
Why do you think TWG is confirmed town when Danni isn’t 100% confirmed cop.
You don't understand the logic, so as a result, you are more inclined to vote for me? Thats bullshit. I said I would look into myuser and unu today. I've been defending myself because it seems that everyone thinks I'm scum. I've quantified my reasons for being suspicious of you time and time again, yet so don't do the same for me.
Look, you probably are the cop, due to the reasoning you have given, but due to the scummy things that you have done, I think that there might be some strings attached, or something.
Originally IIRC my argument was just that people shouldn't just fully trust you and TWG just because of your claim, but it kind of spiralled on from there.
I have been suspicious of you for a while now, and unlike you, I have evidence to support that. Most of this is probably me being too stubborn to admit that I was wrong about both of my two main suspects, but if it could save me from a lynch, I guess I'll look into unu and myuser.
May I just say how convenient it is that you have given the message to only confirmed townies so far. Almost as if you knew who the townies were.
Danni122112
The Drunk
Alrighty, from what I have gathered we are all, except iggish on the same page, I will write out a post with the best plan I can possible come up with, with notes on "if this happen change it to this". After that is out, I will tag the people here, and check if there is any logical errors in the post, or if anyone do not understand part of the post. If anyone has some things I have not concidered, that would be great too!
When every one has responded and are fine with the plan, we lynch Iggish.
When every one has responded and are fine with the plan, we lynch Iggish.
Danni122112
The Drunk
These are enders old quotes.
So our plan is as follows, I assume I will be killed tonight, however, if they kill Dess instead, I will be alive to change the plan, so no need to add something about this, I also assume there are two mafia members left, since if there is one, well, we win. It's not possible its three, unless ender is mafia instead of third party, which is extremely unlikely.
We lynch Iggish
We dun goofed. Lynch Unu, ender, or myusername tomorrow, we are pretty fucked and I'd rather not think too much about this.
Either way, I am most likely dead.
That leaves these people alive: DAY 6
TWG
Myusername
Unu
Ender
Dess
Username says his report, ender say's his opinions, ender is lynched.
Before ender is lynched, I would prefer if enderfive could dig up as much as possible, about myusername and UNU, finding out who is most likely mafia.
Villagers, lynch ender, do not even think about not doing it. He will fuck you over if you dont.
Dess probably dies in the night.
That leaves these people alive: DAY 7
TWG
Myusername
UNU
TWG gets to chose, myusername or UNU, and choses the win or lose.
From what I can see, enderfive can chose to kill someone on his way out, and decide for us, I am fine with that, as long as he has done his best to figure out who maf is. If he do not want to do that, but rather leave his reccomendation on his way out, that is also fine.
On day 7, follow enderfive's reccomendations, villagers. Do not waste time arguing with each other, it will just lead to confusion.
Enderfive
Dess
Unusual_Dood
myusername22
TheWeakGuy48_
Ok, this actual evidence supporting Danni's, thanks. I suppose he could think of this beforehand, but honestly, if he has gone to such efforts to appear like the cop as mafia, he deserves to win.
This is going to sound weird as you are presenting a case against me,but thank you for actually giving me proper reasons for finding me suspicious.
I acknowledge that I was indecisive as to whether we should give notty the benefit of the doubt or not, I don't think that's particularly scummy, but what I have been consistent in is saying that Notty is scum. IIRC, I have always been suspicious of Notty. My votes changed, but not my stance.
How is me saying that Arelic is in the game, scummy? I understand the watcher argument I guess.
While he is an uncounterclaimed cop, I don't think that my suspicions have been unwarranted. Originally my argument was that we shouldn't just trust the claim on face value, but it kind of spiralled out of control from there.
Ok, I think we should lynch Ender not only from a "not-lynch-me" point of view, but also that he potentially could be mafia. It's not certain that he is a fool, despite the likelihood of it.
Ender and Danni were also the only two other people to defend notty and Danni seems to really trust Ender now at this point, making decisions based on Ender's guidance. Danni also said that if anyone votes Ender, he will think they are scum, which seems like he is defending him.
Ender and Danni were also the only two other people to defend notty and Danni seems to really trust Ender now at this point, making decisions based on Ender's guidance. Danni also said that if anyone votes Ender, he will think they are scum, which seems like he is defending him.
No, that's fucking stupid. Why do you even trust him so much? How will he "guide the people" and why should he care what happens as he will be lynched tomorrow. Are you basically just saying that he will just say "Vote (blah) after I'm dead"? This just seems silly.
Danni122112
The Drunk
He is getting a kill on his way out, he can tell people what to vote, or he can kill someone on his way out, with the same result.
I found TWG's plan somewhat lackluster, as ender said. I havent really seen dess type much about myusername or unu, and he will probably be dead last day. I would prefer if we have chosen our target before that. Ender seems to have a good grasp of the game.
Why should he care? Well, decency mostly, he does not have a reason to want to fuck us over, we are giving him his win. He can chose not to care, and just fuck off, and dess can decide at day 6 who to kill at day 7,