It's not even nonsensical
you just don't SEE IT
i mean i typically see things that make sense tyvm
the plan from last time was apparently made by the mafia? does that mean we should avoid that plan so whatever they planned to do doesn't happen?
not necessarily
but uh, anyways
massclaiming is bad
every argument you brought forward is not exclusive to massclaiming and is not necessarily a bad thing either
also, what if the dissenters just
deliberately had their poisoner poison their fellow ally
and bank on people thinking that that person couldn't possibly be a dissenter since they were harmed by said people
that is a possibility, yes
ultimately, everything that happens gives us more to work with when scumhunting, so in that sense, playing it safe is actually detrimental to the town because it diminishes the amount of info we can use
chaos isn't necessarily bad, it only needs able people to take advantage of it
May as well get this out of the way:
If you're one of Bulletproof, Reticent, or Vengeful, post Aye
Else, post Nay
nay
fali for vibes + her 'be cautious about trusting me' seems way too fabricated and I don't buy that she genuinely is some honest careful town who doesn't want people to be too trusting of her because town want to be trusted because it means the lynch isn't going in a bad direction, whereas mafia could want to seem like they're some sweet innocent cautionary townie but I just don't buy it, vibes
i mean
how well do you know fali? i'm not saying she is def town, but i am saying that she's fairly incapable of being anything other than honest, sweet, innocent and cautious, as far as i know her, at least
I relatively trust notty since her playstyle matches with the town playstyle I have of her in my head and her ideas and things she's pointed out is extremely pro-town and contradictory to her behaviour last game, and also a general indicator of whether or not notty is town or not to me is usually by checking my alert feed since whenever she's town I get a bunch of Agrees (since we tend to be on the same wavelength I guess!) but when she's Mafia I get a lot of Funnies and I've got about 200 Agrees so far!
what a wonderful sensible reasoning for your townread on notty
I mean I don't really understand how you feel that way since I've taken time to address all of your concerns as far as I can tell and it all makes sense but if my explanations aren't working for you then maybe I should change the way I'm explaining things. I never intend on bulldozing through anyone's points at all, so I'm sorry if you think that's what you'd be dealing with in talking to me, though I'll admit I'm slightly confused as to where you reached that conclusion because I've addressed every argument made with a logical reason as to why I think they're incorrect rather than bulldozing through without addressing concerns.
i think we've established that logical doesn't quite mean the same to you as it does to others
Does anyone else find it suspicious when most or all of a player's posts pertain to game mechanics as opposed to more focused scumhunting?
indeed
personally i just dislike this talk of mechanics because it takes focus away from scumhunting, which is something we need to do in this setup, regardless of what strategy we're going to use, but notty and inf always seem to steer the discussion there
that doesn't mean that they're necessarily scum, it just means they're looking for a way to win the game in a different place than i am, but i do think that thinking about the game through the specific mechanics of it is a mindset that's more native to scum
So rather than addressing my point you're shifting to "well most people don't want to!'
dude what you quoted is addressing the idea
his point is valid, massclaims are a valid strat for town only when a majority goes along with them
if there are several townies who would rather not reveal their role just yet, the entire strat is shot
Both myself and Notty responded to Ender, to which Ender said he wasn't against massclaiming and just wanted to make sure we questioned it rather than blindly accepting it.
this isn't validation of your plan, nor was i accepting the plan
i added the note to the bottom because i wanted to be clear that i was fairly neutral on the plan and open to the general idea of massclaiming, not necessarily with that specific plan
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this will feel redunant, and it mostly is, but for the sake of simplicity, can
Nottykitten and
Infected_alien8_ post their arguments for a massclaim in one post in a cohesive manner, and can
Hunter and
Aqua do the same for their side of the debate?
it might surprise you, but it's actually easier to understand this back and forth between you if you don't stretch your points all over ten pages
