i could see him being pressured eitherway, i just dont think that pressure would lead him to fake claim cop. i did add there was still a possiblity he still fake claimed cop for the reason you mentioned, fair, but at the time he was uncc'd. now with erik's cc, i trust unu more than erik, as i said. feels like both you and erik are misinterpreting me, altho the phrasing could have been more to the point.
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OK. Not being funny guys. But we have 3.5 hours left to make a decision and if we don't we are in the same position tomorrow as we are right now, just minus a player.
I personally think Erik is the most suspicious, but I don't want to risk that cop lynch. Therefore I'm going with Pairjax as I find both them and Inffy equally scummy, but Pair has been flipflopping and very wishywashy with their answers. I also believe they are more likely to gain the votes we need compared to Inffy.
If anybody else has any thoughts on who we should lynch and why I am open to listening to your arguments and trying to work out together what the best course of action is.
I personally think Erik is the most suspicious, but I don't want to risk that cop lynch. Therefore I'm going with Pairjax as I find both them and Inffy equally scummy, but Pair has been flipflopping and very wishywashy with their answers. I also believe they are more likely to gain the votes we need compared to Inffy.
If anybody else has any thoughts on who we should lynch and why I am open to listening to your arguments and trying to work out together what the best course of action is.
Infected_alien8_
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Just ignore what I said there, I took it back since I realize it wasn't really a fair argument
Nothing specific, just a gut feeling that UNU is town that started to come over me when talking to him
Wait am I still voting pair?
unvote
vote fog
Curious how you went to such a great length to defend Erik, then after some posting by Unu explaining that he claimed prematurely because of pressure, you decide to do a flip on Erik. That really plays into my tinfoil theory that you backing Erik was TMI from the get-go. Also makes sense considering you want multiple wagons to divide things up.
To be honest I don't understand how he is playing this game right now. One second he is here, then he completely flips, then he is back and for some reason out of all the suspicious people right now I am getting his vote?! I have no clue anymore ?
Tim also rated a post of mine earlier so I would like Timdood3 to offer his perspective here.
Don't like moments like this where too many people are on the sidelines. Makes me think maf is just lurking and watching, which is both frustrating and lame.
Don't like moments like this where too many people are on the sidelines. Makes me think maf is just lurking and watching, which is both frustrating and lame.
Infected_alien8_
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I don't really agree with any of the reasoning here. Like, in my eyes nothing fog said there was contradictory, he said he didn't wanna lynch because he had no suspects, but understood the value of lynching. Then he had suspects, so would rather lynch.
Same with hk, he never said UNU was under 'no pressure' in the post you quoted, he was just talking about whether it was close enough to fakeclaim cop or not, so I don't see a contradiction there
I really disagree that I went to "great length" to defend Erik. I shared my read on him, saying it was 'slight town', and explained why.
I then mentioned erik's posts about UNU's claim made me question erik, though I still held him as 'slightly more likely to be town than scum'.
Then I spoke with UNU, my gut read on UNU was that he was town, and then erik cc'd. So, my read on erik became scum.
I always want 2 wagons, you can go back and search past games to check if you want.
same, it read to me as fog trying to be as reasonable and cooperative as possible so that he can be more persuasive. But, I know I'm likely just confirmation biased.
It's day 0, my reads are of course gonna be fluid and susceptible to change. I'm voting you because I'm fine leaving both cop claims to live, and you're my biggest suspect outside of the cop cc's right now.
Because I town-read them now, as I said a few pages ago
I already explained that I had a gut feel of you being scum like yesterday
Uhhh...First thing's first: Gross. Claiming cop on Day 0 under minimal pressure. Seems like a panic move. And the apparent casual manner in which he dropped the claim to me sounds like he's trying to sound smug about it.
There is one issue with this thought process and that is that I was (as far as my memory serves) the first to put pressure of Erik, with inf close behind. If you find myself and inf suspicious, it would stand to reason that you would consider Erik more innocent based on that.
This seems to imply that talking a lot is suspicious. It might just be a difference in experience, as you said you've played a lot on discord where I understand the games happen very quickly. Things are slower here, and usually more thought through. In a format like this, there's plenty of time and space to think through your thoughts and make them known.
There is harm in waiting. Like I've stressed numerous times, we *need* to lynch, and 50/50 is about as good as it gets for Day 0.
***The above is all more or less live reactions from me catching up. 5 pages while I sleep is always fun, yikes.***
My vote will stay on Erik unless me not moving would be the difference between a lynch and a no-lynch. If someone claims your role, it simply doesn't make sense to not cc immediately. Like I said above, it doesn't get better than 50/50 raw odds on D0 so statistically, it's best to lynch between the ccs, cop or otherwise.
Even if I did want to wait to lynch between erik/unu tomorrow, who are the other options?
Fog? What has fog done to be suspicious? I haven't seen anything that pinged my radar. It seems to just be vibes and wagoning?
Pair? I admit that I I don't feel great about him, but I do actually think he's probably town. His 180 from no-lynching out the gate to now wanting a lynch does actually makes sense because his expectation (nothing happens, day ends) didn't match reality (wait, people actual vote here?). I don't like how he seemed to be just following others' opinions, but it appears that he's put his foot down and stood up for his own opinion...I don't know if that means he's town or if it's a gambit...
I know mars is going to call me out for fencesitting on this one, but I really am torn on pair. The more I think about it, the more I convince myself that I'm willing to lynch him. But maybe I'm going soft here, but I wouldn't want to lynch him D0 his first game here.
Infected_alien8_
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I don't think I've been as clear as I ought to have been about why my reads have been the ways they are or changing, so I'll do a reads list.
HK - Slight scum. Posting felt quite exessicely wordy, like trying to seem more helpful and thoughtful than what it was. From memory hk does this as scum but but town. However he's only done it in one post, and I'm not confident about my memory of that, so it's slight scum.
Mars - moderate-strong town, gut feeling.
UNU - moderate town, gut feeling. initially I had a slight scum read on him from a tiny gut feeling at the start of the game, and him brushing sessy's mistake aside as innocent rubbed me the wrong way since I thought it was unreasonable and so I concluded that maybe he knew sessy was town and was trying to look good by being right about her. However, my gut changed to a town read after talking to him today.
Tim - moderate-strong town, gut feeling.
TWG - slight town, process of elimination would deem him to be town according to my other reads, but outside of that I don't have a read on him.
erik - slight-moderate scum. Initially I thought slight-town since he would've been a bit clumsy to be maf, which in general is unusual, but also my memory of erik is that he wouldn't be like that as maf, but possibly as town. Then his posts after UNU's claim felt a bit off, though I still thought he was slight town. Until my gut decided to trust UNU more than I trusted erik, and as UNU's cc, he's now my suspect.
Good Skele - slight town, gut.
Fog - slight-moderate scum, gut.
Sessy - neutral.
Pairjax - slight-moderate town, gut.
HK - Slight scum. Posting felt quite exessicely wordy, like trying to seem more helpful and thoughtful than what it was. From memory hk does this as scum but but town. However he's only done it in one post, and I'm not confident about my memory of that, so it's slight scum.
Mars - moderate-strong town, gut feeling.
UNU - moderate town, gut feeling. initially I had a slight scum read on him from a tiny gut feeling at the start of the game, and him brushing sessy's mistake aside as innocent rubbed me the wrong way since I thought it was unreasonable and so I concluded that maybe he knew sessy was town and was trying to look good by being right about her. However, my gut changed to a town read after talking to him today.
Tim - moderate-strong town, gut feeling.
TWG - slight town, process of elimination would deem him to be town according to my other reads, but outside of that I don't have a read on him.
erik - slight-moderate scum. Initially I thought slight-town since he would've been a bit clumsy to be maf, which in general is unusual, but also my memory of erik is that he wouldn't be like that as maf, but possibly as town. Then his posts after UNU's claim felt a bit off, though I still thought he was slight town. Until my gut decided to trust UNU more than I trusted erik, and as UNU's cc, he's now my suspect.
Good Skele - slight town, gut.
Fog - slight-moderate scum, gut.
Sessy - neutral.
Pairjax - slight-moderate town, gut.
Look, as we know I am most suspicious of Erik right now. But if he is cop, then there is a 0% chance we get a report tomorrow. If we vote for somebody else who is being suspicious. I.E Inffy or Pair. Then we still have a 50% chance of getting a little information.
Infected_alien8_
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Although thinking about it, the reason erik's posts started to make me question him (after UNU claimed) is because he seemed too confident about it being fake. Which, to be fair, would be explained by him being real cop. So I guess that part of my erik read is irrelevant to why I now suspect him.
But still, ultimately my gut trusts UNU as cop, my read on erik isn't as strong as that, so it overrides my previous read of erik. That's why I think erik's scum, purely because of my UNU read
But still, ultimately my gut trusts UNU as cop, my read on erik isn't as strong as that, so it overrides my previous read of erik. That's why I think erik's scum, purely because of my UNU read