MEDIEVAL MAFIA: INTRUSION [DAY 8]

[HypeBurst]

Ahh why is there two pages in the space of one hour?!

Ok well Im still confused with this GmK and Nitasu thing. Can someone quote the post that tells us that Nit chose GmK for his freelance role? I must have missed it while I was reading.

He said it in white somewhere.

And isnt that against the rules? white text to avoid detection?

 

[Ltin]

look at it. look at it more. understand?

No, I dont understand. What are you trying to say?

im saying that whole "go out with a bang" thing isnt going to happen

 

[HypeBurst]

look at it. look at it more. understand?

No, I dont understand. What are you trying to say?

im saying that whole "go out with a bang" thing isnt going to happen

What was the bang?

 

[Ltin]

i had no idea. i had planned on doing something, but i couldnt think of anything.

SO STOP ASKING

 

[HypeBurst]

i had no idea. i had planned on doing something, but i couldnt think of anything.

SO STOP ASKING

so there was no bang? :c

 

[Jeercrul]

I don't quite understand all this Gmk and Nitasu discussion. I've skimmed through the pages, and I'm bringing you guys to this:

Oh and also, Sorry GmK. If you really are a pro-town power role, keep me alive because we could save town together. (Yes, I did pick you.)

And now you add blackmail too? Just fyi: We couldnt save it together, since you'd need me dead for you to get a potential role. A price I am rather unwilling to pay!

It seems more like Nitasu was trying to push the load off his shoulders and get Gmk dead/save him (tired of playing a neutral role much?), which Gmk made it quite obvious that he didn't want to die, possibily why he voted for Nitasu. Because, I don't really get why Gmk would want a copy of his role dead, even if he were mafia/town/3rd party. The more always the merrier.

However, what if, just what if, Nitasu really didn't pick Gmk, and actually abided by the rules, but put his name there just to throw us all into confusion so he could delay being lynched?

I'm not sure what I'm talking about, whoops pretty confused myself too.

 

[std1997]

I didn't mean to start an argument, I was merely stating my opinions on what is going on so far so it didn't seem like I was lurking and I'm aware sploorky never said he was the investigator role or anything of the sort but he did pick Da_jinks posts towards the end of the game apart like a fruit and that is why I compared him to Endersteve due to the fact Endersteve has been doing much the same thing this entire game but I could also say that you're attempting to cover for endersteve by trying to throw my opinions around like I was somehow making a personal insult and that i'm trying to be "argumentative" either way, All i did was state my opinions and if you have a problem with them OK. I just wanted to clarify a bit more that I wasn't attempting to "throw mud at you" or "go on about something".

 

[Ltin]

i had no idea. i had planned on doing something, but i couldnt think of anything.

SO STOP ASKING

so there was no bang? :c

no.

 

[HypeBurst]

i had no idea. i had planned on doing something, but i couldnt think of anything.

SO STOP ASKING

so there was no bang? :c

no.

oh :c

 

[Jivvi]

My apologies for not posting but I've been attempting to build more solid facts against some people so I don't come out just throwing out accusations at them cause they make a post that makes very little to no sense but a little thing I've noticed so far in this game is the heavy-handedness of lynching so far, It seems like people are really pressing for lynches while in other games, people prefer to be safe then sorry and don't lynch people that often but I guess with 30 players that's more common? but either way, so far I think the person who has been throwing out the accusations left and right has been Jivvi but besides that I don't really have anything else and if anyone played the previous Mafia Lite 4 and re-read the game then you would've seen that Sploorky played a very sneaky mafia role by pointing out everyone else's suspicious behavior while yet making himself look like the investigator and not the guilty one which makes endersteve5's posts a little bit more suspicious to me.. so currently my suspicions are
Prizyms
Jivvi
endersteve5

You can contribute without making huge incorrect arguments, you know. And besides, I'm not the only person who's thrown seemingly random votes, and on top of that, mine was a Day One joke. That piece of fake evidence you just used applies to you right now more that anyone else.

 

[Jivvi]

I didn't mean to start an argument, I was merely stating my opinions on what is going on so far so it didn't seem like I was lurking and I'm aware sploorky never said he was the investigator role or anything of the sort but he did pick Da_jinks posts towards the end of the game apart like a fruit and that is why I compared him to Endersteve due to the fact Endersteve has been doing much the same thing this entire game but I could also say that you're attempting to cover for endersteve by trying to throw my opinions around like I was somehow making a personal insult and that i'm trying to be "argumentative" either way, All i did was state my opinions and if you have a problem with them OK. I just wanted to clarify a bit more that I wasn't attempting to "throw mud at you" or "go on about something".

This.
This peeves my pet as much as claiming or whatever and then retracting.

 

[digi]

std1997 Sploorky didn't even claim 'investigator' in Mafia Lite 4 - what are you on about? You're trying to grab an argument out of thin air and I really don't trust that.

Sploorky played a very sneaky mafia role by pointing out everyone else's suspicious behavior while yet making himself look like the investigator and not the guilty one which makes endersteve5's posts a little bit more suspicious to me.. so currently my suspicions are...

What he's trying to say (I think) is that Sploorky picked out flaws in posts and used it to his advantage to win for Mafia. std1997 is comparing Sploorky's mafia lite game style to Endersteve's.

 

[Jivvi]

so there was no bang? :c

no.

oh :c

I'm guessing that this was a hollow threat.

 

[digi]

Awesome. The quote stuffed up. Please read what's inside the quote -.-

 

[std1997]

std1997 Sploorky didn't even claim 'investigator' in Mafia Lite 4 - what are you on about? You're trying to grab an argument out of thin air and I really don't trust that.

Sploorky played a very sneaky mafia role by pointing out everyone else's suspicious behavior while yet making himself look like the investigator and not the guilty one which makes endersteve5's posts a little bit more suspicious to me.. so currently my suspicions are...
This is exactly what I meant but I guess I poorly expressed myself.

You can contribute without making huge incorrect arguments, you know. And besides, I'm not the only person who's thrown seemingly random votes, and on top of that, mine was a Day One joke. That piece of fake evidence you just used applies to you right now more that anyone else.

I was posting my suspicions and apparently that's being "incorrect" and "argumentative".

 

[std1997]

Damnit stupid quotes aren't working so i'll just post this instead.

For @Digi's posts,
Yes, i was meaning that Sploorky picked out the flaws in people's posts in order to hide his true nature.
and For @Jiv's posts
I fail to understand how posting my opinions is being "argumentative".

 

[Jivvi]

Damnit stupid quotes aren't working so i'll just post this instead.

For @Digi's posts,
Yes, i was meaning that Sploorky picked out the flaws in people's posts in order to hide his true nature.
and For @Jiv's posts
I fail to understand how posting my opinions is being "argumentative".

No, you're missing my point entirely.
I meant that you weren't talking at all for fear of sounding pushy etc, so you didn't post much. I said you cans till contribute without being in everyone's faces. It's not like you have to choose one extreme or the other.

 

[std1997]

Damnit stupid quotes aren't working so i'll just post this instead.

For @Digi's posts,
Yes, i was meaning that Sploorky picked out the flaws in people's posts in order to hide his true nature.
and For @Jiv's posts
I fail to understand how posting my opinions is being "argumentative".

No, you're missing my point entirely.
I meant that you weren't talking at all for fear of sounding pushy etc, so you didn't post much. I said you cans till contribute without being in everyone's faces. It's not like you have to choose one extreme or the other.

Oh ok, I understand now and I'm certain as I play more Mafia, I'm certain I will find to a medium instead of going to one extreme to the other as you said.

 

[Nottykitten]

I didn't mean to start an argument, I was merely stating my opinions on what is going on so far so it didn't seem like I was lurking and I'm aware sploorky never said he was the investigator role or anything of the sort but he did pick Da_jinks posts towards the end of the game apart like a fruit and that is why I compared him to Endersteve due to the fact Endersteve has been doing much the same thing this entire game but I could also say that you're attempting to cover for endersteve by trying to throw my opinions around like I was somehow making a personal insult and that i'm trying to be "argumentative" either way, All i did was state my opinions and if you have a problem with them OK. I just wanted to clarify a bit more that I wasn't attempting to "throw mud at you" or "go on about something".

I just want to say, I can't take any of your arguments seriously or actually read them well if you dont use punctuation. All this big was of text was maybe 2 sentences? It's really annoying to read =/

Ahh why is there two pages in the space of one hour?!

Ok well Im still confused with this GmK and Nitasu thing. Can someone quote the post that tells us that Nit chose GmK for his freelance role? I must have missed it while I was reading.

Anyway with that being said, I believe that GmK would vote for Nit in that Day 0 lynch if he was town.

If he was town, lynching a third party role would be a safe move. No town PR's or villagers would be killed. It wouldnt exactly benefit town too well, but it would show the first voting styles and bandwagon-ing, to get a better understanding of the players.

If he was mafia, I dont think he would vote for Nitasu. Why? because if he died, there would be another mafia in his place to help the mafia win. Even dead mafia still want their team to win.

I can understand GmK voting for Nitasu and him being town.


And with Ltin. I'm really nervous about you. This 'bang' stuff is pretty cryptic and It would be nice if you explained it. I'm not in a position yet to vote to lynch you but I would like to hear your explanation for all of this.

It's not a "safe" move. It's a terrible move if you were town. If GmK was town, Nitasu would be a confirmed innocent in GmK's eyes. Lynching a confirmed innocent is about the worst thing you can do.

However, if he were mafia. It would be a pretty weird move to lynch Nitasu too. Nitasu would be an extra mafia member, meaning the town would have to use another day to lynch the extra mafia. Why wouldn't want an extra mafia if you were mafia?

And then there is the 3rd party side. There is no benefit in having nitasu around if GmK is third party. 3rd party roles have their own win conditions, meaning GmK would lose and it wouldn't matter if Nitasu took over his role. As mafia or town, someone taking your role helps the team. But as 3rd party it doesn't.

Which is why I think GmK is a third party role.

 

[GmK]

Nottykitten

think about it: Nitasu stated I was picked as his freelance choice.For him to get anywhere in the game, he'd need me killed. No matter what role I have, I'd have to be dead for him to get anywhere. I simply wanted to continue playing, especially after nitasu broke all rules. Why wouldnt I want the one person dead whose wole aim is to get me killed? And if I would have turned him into a confirmed town, nobody would have known, since I would be dead. It would only have worked if he hadnt told everyone his role, but then I would not have had a reason to want him off my back.

HypeBurst summarised my thinking quite well.

Catching up with the rest that's written.

 

[Nottykitten]

Nottykitten

think about it: Nitasu stated I was picked as his freelance choice.For him to get anywhere in the game, he'd need me killed. No matter what role I have, I'd have to be dead for him to get anywhere. I simply wanted to continue playing, especially after nitasu broke all rules. Why wouldnt I want the one person dead whose wole aim is to get me killed? And if I would have turned him into a confirmed town, nobody would have known, since I would be dead. It would only have worked if he hadnt told everyone his role, but then I would not have had a reason to want him off my back.

HypeBurst summarised my thinking quite well.

Catching up with the rest that's written.

Keeping him alive would have benefitted the town, if you were town sided. I understand you don't want to die, but if you dying helps the town... whynot?

As far as I see it he only broke the rule about not having white text.

 

[Nottykitten]

And if I would have turned him into a confirmed town, nobody would have known, since I would be dead.

If you die, your role gets outed. And then we would know your and thus Nitasu's role.

 

[Prizyms]

Nottykitten

think about it: Nitasu stated I was picked as his freelance choice.For him to get anywhere in the game, he'd need me killed. No matter what role I have, I'd have to be dead for him to get anywhere. I simply wanted to continue playing, especially after nitasu broke all rules. Why wouldnt I want the one person dead whose wole aim is to get me killed? And if I would have turned him into a confirmed town, nobody would have known, since I would be dead. It would only have worked if he hadnt told everyone his role, but then I would not have had a reason to want him off my back.

HypeBurst summarised my thinking quite well.

Catching up with the rest that's written.

Keeping him alive would have benefitted the town, if you were town sided. I understand you don't want to die, but if you dying helps the town... whynot?

As far as I see it he only broke the rule about not having white text.

He broke the rule of 'no giving up' by claiming Freelancer when his target was not dead.

 

[GmK]

Keeping him alive would have benefitted the town, if you were town sided. I understand you don't want to die, but if you dying helps the town... whynot?

As far as I see it he only broke the rule about not having white text.

1 I still fail to see how it would have benefitted town, if nobody knew the result of my death.

2 He broke the one rule of giving up and revelaing your role, it was stated very clearly to never do that

 

[GmK]

Ahhhh, now I see: If upon death I had shown as Town, people would now know Nitasu is confirmed town. I simply didnt think of that.

That doesnt change the fact still that this would only have been possible due to Nitasu breaking the giving up rule