MEDIEVAL MAFIA: INTRUSION [DAY 8]

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myusername22

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I didn't want to start a vote on ltin earlier because when I've started lynches in the past I've tended to get no support /just be going off my own suspicions without others behind it however ltin has gotten to the suspiciousness point that I am more than willing to vote for him now that a vote has started.

I'm going to vote ltin because of the reasons i've said above He's been acting strangely this entire game and I have a bad feeling about him. not to mention that final post where it looks like he desperately tried to say "just kidding". like I've said it feels like he overly thinks he is suspicious (probably because he is the mafia) and it tells me he probably is trying to hide something.

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This day has been going on for too long. It may seem like I am desperate to get someone lynched, but I find Ltin really suspicious. My gut feeling tells me that he could be the SK from his posts, with him bringing up illogical points which make no sense whatsoever to me. Furthermore, I find his style of playing different from all the previous seasons where he was innocent. Even if he were innocent, he is only stirring up more confusion amongst us with his posts and directing us off-topic with all the "going off with a bang" discussion. Imo I feel that it is necessary to lynch him. He will only serve as a source of distraction for us.

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Furthermore, I find his style of playing different from all the previous seasons where he was innocent. Even if he were innocent, he is only stirring up more confusion amongst us with his posts and directing us off-topic with all the "going off with a bang" discussion.


This. Whilst meta is always an issue (that's why people like Defiant always take on a different role, to not make people analyse him based on meta), it seems of essence here. Ltin is not even trying to get to any conclusions at this point, and from all players seems to be the most suspicious one. I'll go through the thread again, but for now:

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Hm, I've read on the Ltin discussion. I can see why people find Ltin suspicious but looking through the role list I can't find any role that relates to some sort of bomb so I don't think the bang thing is all that suspicious.

I dunno, not going to vote for now but Ltin's reactions was quite suspicious but not vote-worthy in my opinion. My main suspicion is Myuser, I still find the move on Day 0 quite suspicious but (sowwy baby) Notty (</3) has rose a bit on my suspicion list. I know Notty wants to confuse people but the random voting changing each day (Jivvi yesterday, Kake today) seems like a Hangman sort of move wanting to get someone lynched but that would be way too obvious and I doubt Notty would be foolish enough to be that obvious... but maybe that's all part of the plan... THIS IS JUST LIKE MY SUSPICION ON DEFIANT IN THE DOOMED CRUISE (even though that turned out to be wrong)

Once again, not voting but my suspicions still remain.
 

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I wasn't really suspicious of Ltin when he said "But the sk doesnt HAVE to kill each night." I mean, I think it would be better for the SK to kill every night but he/she can decide not to kill if he/she wants.

I have a slight suspicion on Ltin now.


I'm trying to narrow down our options on what actually happened, and Ltin points out an unlikely scenario to try to push us back from our higher level of understanding.


Then Alpha said this, which I disagreed 100% with it. Because in my opinion Ltin wasn't pointing out unlikely scenario since SK can decide not to kill.

But the more Ltin talking the more suspicious I was getting of him. He was not making sense whatsoever. With that "Bang" and trying to be sarcastic. I don't know, at this point I believe he might not be town sided.

For that I'll have to vote Ltin

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I also want to say Jivvi pointing fingers and just trying to bring attention to others is bothering me. He seems to go after people so quick and change his mind so easily. He's just going after so many people. But that's just me.


I'd personally like Prizyms and GmK to speak up, as we have yet to reach a conclusion on their power struggle

Also, if Ltin turn out to be town, I'll definitely be supicious of Jinks. My gut was already hungry suspicious of him, and he's been pushing for Ltin pretty hard.

Lets see if I can try to explain it differently.

My reluctancce took into account total toqn outnumbered scum.
However, one dezian isnt the end of the world, and it would have been more likely to lynch a scum or unimportant person than town power role.
omg ur defeding urself ur scum


The reasoning here is sound, but weren't you pushing for a nolynch early on? That disadvantages us, as even if we nolynch anyway, we can gather information.
 

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I know Notty wants to confuse people but the random voting changing each day (Jivvi yesterday, Kake today) seems like a Hangman sort of move wanting to get someone lynched but that would be way too obvious and I doubt Notty would be foolish enough to be that obvious...

That's exactly what I also stated above, am glad someone sees the possibility as well.

I would like Nottykitten to say sth. about that ;)
 

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I know Notty wants to confuse people but the random voting changing each day (Jivvi yesterday, Kake today) seems like a Hangman sort of move wanting to get someone lynched but that would be way too obvious and I doubt Notty would be foolish enough to be that obvious...

That's exactly what I also stated above, am glad someone sees the possibility as well.

I would like Nottykitten to say sth. about that ;)


The reason is that on day 0, I thought the freelancer could be usefull for the town. So I didn't think lynching Nitasu was good. And now on Day 1 I don't think Ltin is bad. Which is why I didn't vote for those two. Instead I just went with my own idea.

After all:
I also want to say Jivvi pointing fingers and just trying to bring attention to others is bothering me. He seems to go after people so quick and change his mind so easily. He's just going after so many people. But that's just me.
People who change their minds are doomed to be found suspicious.
 

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I suppose I may have dug myself into a bottomlezss pit, but for the meantime,
vote prizyms
My reasoning may not be sound, but I dont trust him.

Well, if you are town, try to help as much as possible now you still can.

I dont think you have any power roles, otherwise you would have claimed by now, but still,
why do you think prizyms is suspicious/untrustable? What do you think is a smart move to make?

Untill you are lynched, you are still able to help us out.
 

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I know Notty wants to confuse people but the random voting changing each day (Jivvi yesterday, Kake today) seems like a Hangman sort of move wanting to get someone lynched but that would be way too obvious and I doubt Notty would be foolish enough to be that obvious...

That's exactly what I also stated above, am glad someone sees the possibility as well.

I would like Nottykitten to say sth. about that ;)
Notty also seems to be exploiting WIFOM loops, trying to use cut off the logic loops where it suits her to use in posts. (like in her me-vote)
Notice I'm not following through with many suspicions, I'm throwing stuff onto the table to see what more skilled investigators can make of it.
 

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Well, if you are town, try to help as much as possible now you still can.
Untill you are lynched, you are still able to help us out.
i never said i wasn't going to try to help.
in fact, that's the whole reason for this post, or, at least, what i hope it does.

Exhibit A: Prizyms
i dont really have much to say other than a strong hunch. but what really got me thinking was this
Please forgive my lack of posting, internet was crappy this morning.

From what it seems the most suspicious people are Pim and Priz?

Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also I see that people are pushing for a Lynch, and I guess whatever the group decides is best is probably best because there are people here with more experience than I have.
Just going to be blunt here and tell you to stop agreeing with what everybody else is doing and make your own mind up. Not contributing and simply going with everyone else is toxic to the game, and results in the stronger players being killed off, leaving the less vocal players able to be swayed easily by the mafia and third parties. Suspicion is not some value that can be measured on a scale or whatnot - I may be a top FoS for some, but may also be a purely vocal player to others with no suspicion. I'm not just saying this because I'm considered suspicious - I would have said this if it was anybody being suspected through hive mentality alone.
This seemed a very sudden outburst, And its not the nicest thing to say. Incase you haven't noticed, not everyone has something to contribute, OR someone else contributes it first.
Thats really all i have to say on that.


Exihibit B: Jivvi
GmK, on page 8 jivvi first mentioned the prizyms-GmK power battle, in a list of short observations he made.
just saying

Jivvi was very adamant on Defending me a while back. I Believe Jivvi is mafia. By now the mafia know who each other are, and that lynching town is good for them. If i am correct, Jivvi believes he can escape suspicion by protecting me when im already doomed, and, when i appear as a role nobody except the cop could know (town/3rd party) He would be deemed innocent.
 

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Reading the statements posted after mine confirms my suspicions.

VOTECOUNT!!!
-Ltin = 8(Da Jinks, Hunter27a1, Alpha102, myusername22, grimmjowforever, GmK, HypeBurst, ansoro2112, Prizyms) (L-6)
-GmK = 1(Nottykitten) (L-14)
-Alpha102 = 1(the road to ruin) (L-14)
-Prizyms = 1(Ltin) (L-14)

With 29 players, takes 15 to lynch.
 
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