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I approach nitasu987. "What's that smell?" I think to myself. "Is it possible someone can smell this bad?"

-Hey Zeke (Nitasu), nice to meet you. Um, could you like jump off the ship please? Okay no. I'm joking. But a shower wouldn't be that bad for you. Maybe is the fact that you drink way too much beer? You know, that's not too good for your body. Plus its better if you stay sober while being in this cruise. You know, people are dying and shit. Someone can easily kill you while you being drunk.

oooh Weel there ain' a shawhwhah in mah room. I dunno whah, bu' I go' no shawhwah. Can I ushe ursh?
And AH' AIN' DRUNK SONNYBOI, I CAN DO SHI' Y'KNAWH. I JUSH' GOTS' A FOAMY MAWTH.

Translation: Oh, well there ain't a shower in my room. I dunno why, but I have no shower. Can I use yours? and I'm not drunk sonny boy, I can do shit you know. I just have a foamy mouth! (Don't worry I've specially adapted to a diet of beer, it's a prospector thing.)
 

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Oh, here we go.

I think that at it's core Defiant raises good points, but they come off as aggressive, which many are not okay with. And admittedly, the passive-aggressiveness of some of them I'm starting to get annoyed by as well. We're supposed to be civil here.
 

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Once again you seem way too defensive of yourself. Let me make this simple in 3 points.
1. You are playing way to aggressive towards lynching someone, seemingly anyone, as quickly and early as possible.
2. Even though aggression is in your character, you are doing in it a way to create chaos among the townspeople
3. You are responding to every accusation in a very defensive, and at the same time very aggressive towards the attacker.

The way you are, not your character, acting just seems too off for me to let it go easily
I think im gonna step up the aggression now and make a vote

Vote Defiant_Blob

VRISKA: 1. My votes yesterday were not intended to kill anyone. As well, I do not want to kill just anyone. I've explained this please read my st8ments!
VRISKA: 2. That is a very general statement that I can't even defend since you didn't even provide any examples. I could say you accusing me is causing chaos.
VRISKA: 3. I respond to every accusation 8y defending myself. You've just made possi8ly the worst argument in Mafia: you're defending yourself so you are guilty. I aggressively defend because I'm annoyed that no one reads my posts and just passes over them saying they're too aggressive so they're bad.
VRISKA: I have a better question: why are you tunneling me so hard on points I've already more or less explained or points that make no sense????????
VRISKA: You if anything are the one desperate to kill!
 

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Oh, here we go.

I think that at it's core Defiant raises good points, but they come off as aggressive, which many are not okay with. And admittedly, the passive-aggressiveness of some of them I'm starting to get annoyed by as well. We're supposed to be civil here.

VRISKA: We're supposed to 8e finding out who the killer is, not who has the shittiest personality.
VRISKA: People don't like me? Cool.
VRISKA: Voting to kill me 8ecause of who I am? Idiotic.
VRISKA: I'll tone down my "passive-aggressiveness" if people stop 8rushing off what I'm saying 8ecause I'm "8eing too aggressive" and it's hurting their feelings I guess.
 

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I completely understand that you're upset, don't get me wrong on that. Let's all remember that the roleplaying is merely an addition to the core content; the logic.

Let's try to move forward from here. I really don't want to be around conflict any more today(real time). So, there's something I want everyone to consider. We don't even know the alignment of MarsKid.
 

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VRISKA: We're supposed to 8e finding out who the killer is, not who has the shittiest personality.
VRISKA: People don't like me? Cool.
VRISKA: Voting to kill me 8ecause of who I am? Idiotic.
VRISKA: I'll tone down my "passive-aggressiveness" if people stop 8rushing off what I'm saying 8ecause I'm "8eing too aggressive" and it's hurting their feelings I guess.

2. Even though aggression is in your character, you are doing in it a way to create chaos among the townspeople


The way you are, not your character, acting just seems too off for me to let it go easily


Just gonna point this out, im not attack the character you are roleplaying as, im attacking you for the way your getting defensive about this. It seems too fishy for a normal townsperson to get this defensive over only 1 vote.

I stand by my case
VRISKA: 3. I respond to every accusation 8y defending myself. You've just made possi8ly the worst argument in Mafia: you're defending yourself so you are guilty. I aggressively defend because I'm annoyed that no one reads my posts and just passes over them saying they're too aggressive so they're bad.
VRISKA: I have a better question: why are you tunneling me so hard on points I've already more or less explained or points that make no sense????????
VRISKA: You if anything are the one desperate to kill!

As for this accusation i feel that im just acting on my suspicions of you being a possible mafia member. The only thing i am defending is my argument for that case.
 

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It seems like the main reason Mar's was targeted is because he was trying to get us to calm down. He was promoting us more over to work together then to constantly argue and bicker at each other indefinitely. This makes him an easy target.

That is what i believe the justification is

Now lets look at the main interactions with Mar's

KingHoward is way to obvious to be the one pulling the ropes, it seems more like a set up for him
During the Coolio vote, both endersteev and Jivvi made appearances
Nitasu also had his moment of input there as well.

That seems like all the people who have the most obvious impact on Mars, but of course there are plenty of players in the dark staying silent as well.
 

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Hmm the question is we dont even know how many of each character there is. For all we know what if there isnt even a vigilante? The 1 death at night is what im gonna assume for the moment a lucky civ hit.

As for defiant yeah you are being aggressive and yes we are reading your posts obviously if more than 1 person is saying this it doesnt mean we are being ignorant to the posts.
 

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Okay, I have another page to read so I might miss something but I'm just going to point something out.

Now, MarsKid (sorry if wrong name or something) died last night.
MarsKid suspected K1ngHoward.
Now, people are saying "it's way too obvious"
Well, what if K1ng Howard is playing smart, he knows that that's what we're going to think. This was the first thing that I thought of when I read the first post about him being too obvious with it.

Just another thought to get out there, nothing against him, just a thought that may be true, may not.
 

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So right now, I'm a bit perplexed about our current situation, we have one dead, maybe another wounded? It's hard to tell on this ship, not only that but from that night we haven't even got an identity of the first man dead. So where are we in the grand scheme of things now from where we were yesterday, not very far at all. From what I gather there is a lot of suspicion being placed on Defiant, understandable, I did have a look at his character profile that he linked in his signature. His choice of character for role play does suggest there is a chance he is a mafia role, but then it could also be a passenger role, the alignment of the character in question is in fact questionable and confusing at times :confused:
Then again I feel if the case is that Defiant is mafia, its just too easy a bluff to call, I mean it would be a massive risk, one that maybe will payoff? I know Defiant is known for risky tactics but this seems a little extreme, then again he could always be a 3rd party character who knows really.

However after all this I am getting off the main point I wanted to discuss, whether Defiant is good or evil he had a point. After night 1 we are no better off than we were day 0 and we still have no information or relatively little, so today we must lynch someone. The question remains though is who? Now before you go off and say we should all vote for Defiant, I'd like to halt your bandwagon right there. While we received no information about the role of said victim marskid, I've come to the conclusion that either of these options has occurred.

1. Marskid's role revealed no information upon his role on death; if Mars was some kind of suicide role or something like that, its possible that is why we received no information of his possible role.
2. A mafia power was activated to ensure no information was revealed upon the death of the marskid; in such a case I imagine that this power is a one use only. I could be wrong though.
3. A 3rd party power was responsible, see above.

To me it seems quite likely that it was Marskid's role that caused no information to be received but then again it could have been a 3rd party, or even a mafia power.
Of course we have no information on his role so we can only assume what actually might have happened, but right now I'm banking on the possibility it was actually a mafia power, such a stratagem would suit them well on the first night as of now we can only assume and speculate as to what Marskid's role was. Keeping this in mind that means that a No lynch on the First Day would have suited the mafia extremely well as basically we are on Day 1 now and we are in the exact same position we were yesterday. So now you ask what does that have to do with Defiant? Well considering Defiant's aggressiveness yesterday, if this was what the mafia had planned then I don't understand how Defiant is being put under suspicion as a possible mafia member. If what I mentioned before is true and the mafia wanted a No Lynch while Defiant was aggressively voting others, it just doesn't add up. So after reviewing all this I must conclude that it is more likely that Defiant is either a 3rd party role or a passenger, don't ask me about possible power roles he could be, as I haven't a clue of what power roles there are.

Alright so, who I think we should be looking at then, well aside from the quiet ones who quickly pushed the no lynch vote, there are also a few sore thumbs that seem to have arisen when Defiant became aggressive (I'm not actually sure if this is the right word for what he did, I know he was trying to draw out the mafia so I'm just going to call it aggressive anyways) I'd like to start looking at a few people more closely however I feel this post is a bit too long already, I sent way longer presenting my thoughts on Defiant than I meant to :confused: but then I suppose this is what I get for not actively posting. The life of a lazy man is one you will never know.

Eh while im at it that might as well be my character, 'The lazy man' :)
 

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Defiant_Blob I dont want to be pushy but I find your character kinda really annoying and when I have to read through like 4 pages of mafia, I seem to just skip through yours. What you say is logical but I would rather have your logic and your role-playing separate. I dont believe you are mafia however and when someone said "creating chaos between townspeople" I believe you are just working out teams and voting patterns to further your understanding of the mafia members.
 

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I think we have to consider why did the anti-town want to kill marskid without revealing his role? From what gmk has said, and what oak has said as well, I think it is highly possible that the anti-town has some sort of strategy in their minds. I think there are quite a few possibilities as well:

>Anti-town randomly killing off the passengers to confuse everyone. Attempting to have an irregular killing pattern to prevent any power roles from guessing the next person to be killed.
>Knows Mars role (for the Mafia). Perhaps they have a contact in the mafia, and he poses a threat to them. He might be dangerous to them and an asset to us, perhaps the vig or something, and they want to plant false hope among us thus hiding his identify. I'm not sure whether it's an one-time use though. This might explain why the vig hasn't made a move assuming there is a vig present.
>Mars is a suicide role. Low possibility but there might still be a chance. Maybe he gets to kill another player as he dies, presumably on another day to confuse people, and without revealing his role. If so, he might be from the mafia.
>Maybe the role reveals on player's deaths will be revealed on and off. Like to spice things up? :0
>K1ng did it (I don't see why).

Whatever it is, I would like to go with the most possible possibility, and that is the anti-town trying to make random kills a few times in the game to shake off power roles off their trail(s). Maybe mars was a little threatening to them as well, which might explain why they chose him. They could also use his suspicion against k1ng to kill two birds with one stone - driving people to suspect it was k1ng's doings. There is also the possibility that Mars is the vig which I typed above explaining why the vig hasn't made a move.

We definitely need to lynch someone now. This is ending up just like Day 0. Only that we have more posts that will contain some evidences to lead us to who is the anti-town.
 

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///VOTECOUNT///

Players needed to lynch: 15
Players needed to no-lynch: 14

Defiant_Blob - 1 - infernofox (L-14)

Players not voting: Alpha102, Ooglie, 77_is_the_best, hihihilolHI, Old_Man_Oak_63, Omar_Sales, nitasu987, Defiant_Blob, cooliorules, One One Two, Sploorky, Dessern5, Vatumok, nottykitten, endersteve5, digitalmez, shinyshark, grimmjowforever, K1ngHoward, mariosatr, ansoro, kraby1, Prizyms, balloon98, HypeBurst, myusername22, storm886, Jivvi
 

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Unlike others, I really like Defiant's roleplay, I don't see why it's annoying at all. Anyway, was expecting to die tonight but I didn't which is... good I guess. Anyway, all of you who are saying stuff about a role that doesn't reveal roles on death, this is a closed-setup game, meaning that we don't know how many mafia, what roles they are and I guess what roles people are upon death.

As for my current suspicions... None. I'm presuming K1ng was supposed to be framed by mafia, then again comes in my weird thought about Defiant and that he's doing this as he knows we'll think this, but is secretly mafia. I'm still presuming there's a vigilante, serial killer and then the mafia but only 1 kill tonight can be on several cases including:
Doctor protected someone who was targetted.
Person who was targetted has 2 lives (like lucky civ, but lucky passenger I guess)
A possible roleblocker roleblocked either 3 of the roles.
They didn't kill.

I'm presuming the bottom one, but doctor is always possible and I think they shouldn't claim at the moment, too risky. Cop is doing the right thing too, too risky to claim at the moment. Nothing else to say really as that night didn't hold much narrowing down, now we have one less players which narrows down the list a little... I guess.
 

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And so the price is paid for our hesitation. And the one paying the price wasn't even in favour for standing and doing nothing... Nevertheless you shall be remembered MarsKid.
I wake up, fearing that many of the passengers would have perished in the night, however it seems fortune has smiled upon us and we had only one casualty. I would do more for him, perhaps even organise a small funeral but I can't... I can't organise a farewell to someone who could have been one of the mafia and was taken out by a passenger willing to go to further lengths than waiting in their room, shivering as I was. Or maybe there is a third force on this vessel. Someone who wants the gold all for themselves... Perhaps... perhaps a freelance has the power to decided whether any evidence of the one they killed remain. Maybe an unlikely theory but one nevertheless. There may not be even a third force and I am thinking too much. Maybe the mafia will hide the evidence in every kill? Or only had the chance to waste some time covering up evidence on their first night? I guess only some of us will find out, the survivors, if any at all...
Then there is this Vriska fellow and of course the BOuLDER. I find Vriska to be a bit aggressive but I think he is doing his best to try and find out the mafia. The Boulder however seems to be set on throwing this... man? Overboard. I fear that it might be a mistake in throwing Vriska overboard for now. Also the boulder talks about these people who share rooms... am I correct? Unless he is one of these roommates then I cant see how else he would know about this role, which puts him mostly cleared in my opinion as he talked as if roommates were a passenger role.
Now, back to Mars' death. Before he died he seemed to think that K1ng Howard was in it to enlarge his wealth as a king by working within the mafia. Yet then he was killed the night he said that. Seems slightly fishy but many have caught on to a ploy that the mafia could have used: framing the k1ng. I don't intend on pointing any fingers at him at the moment either.
Unlike yesterday I feel the death of Mars has woken people up to the fact that they have to do something. I have no intention of having everyone go to bed again tonight, even if the unfortunate person is a little random of a choice. I shall mostly pick on the people who have not contributed to the discussion hardly at all. I shall think upon the matter and reveal my conclusion to you all at a later stage.
 

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As for my current suspicions... None. I'm presuming K1ng was supposed to be framed by mafia, then again comes in my weird thought about Defiant and that he's doing this as he knows we'll think this, but is secretly mafia. I'm still presuming there's a vigilante, serial killer and then the mafia but only 1 kill tonight can be on several cases including:
Doctor protected someone who was targetted.
Person who was targetted has 2 lives (like lucky civ, but lucky passenger I guess)
A possible roleblocker roleblocked either 3 of the roles.
They didn't kill.
Or all killing roles targeted Marskid goodness that would be a coincidence :p
 

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As for my current suspicions... None. I'm presuming K1ng was supposed to be framed by mafia, then again comes in my weird thought about Defiant and that he's doing this as he knows we'll think this, but is secretly mafia. I'm still presuming there's a vigilante, serial killer and then the mafia but only 1 kill tonight can be on several cases including:
Doctor protected someone who was targetted.
Person who was targetted has 2 lives (like lucky civ, but lucky passenger I guess)
A possible roleblocker roleblocked either 3 of the roles.
They didn't kill.
Or all killing roles targeted Marskid goodness that would be a coincidence :p
Poor Mars if that happened :c
 

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Ok, now that I have had some time to think about things, here's my thoughts:

First, the possible framing of K1ng. What we have here is what I think is called a WIFOM situation (taken from my limited Mafia glossary). There is the possibility that K1ng isn't mafia and Mars was killed to make us point fingers in the wrong direction. But it could also be that K1ng is playing us and he is in fact mafia, who is trying to put suspicion off himself by killing the only one that suspected him and then making us believe that it would be too obvious, so he didn't do it. Another thing worth noting is that (I think) K1ng was the one that first voted for no lynch on the previous day, which was good for the mafia. If we count in the fact that we didn't get a role reveal tonight, which might have been the work of a mafia PR, then a no lynch would be even better for the mafia. I think we should watch K1ng closely.
Oh and inferno, I don't remember conflicting with K1ng on day 0, and I don't remember K1ng being involved in the coolio vote, so I'm kinda confused right now.

I do believe defiant is not mafia. Back in day 0, I believe he was just voting coolio and omar to see their reactions and how they would respond, not because he was randomly trying to lynch someone
Everything he has said so far has made at least some sense to me. Also, to anyone thinking that defiant is defending himself a bit too much, think about what you would do if you were being voted. If you were a regular passenger or maybe even a pro-town PR, would you not defend yourself, even if it was just for one vote? Defiant's playing style has been rather aggressive anyway, so that kind of behaviour is kind of expected, if you ask me. Not worth a lynch in my opinion, but I guess we'll see.

Inferno seems to be rather fixed on lynching defiant. Now, I had this idea: what if inferno is a Lyncher? I guess that thought just popped in my head probably because I played the Lyncher in Season 5, but I just can't get the thought out of my head any more. If inferno was indeed the lyncher and defiant his target, then lynching defiant would win the game for him. I know that even the chances of a Lyncher in this game are rather small, but it is a possibility.

That's it from me for now, if I remember anything else or develop any new ideas, I'll be sure to post them.
 

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alright time for me to stop procastinating and actually post something again.

unfortunately the previous night yielded less than 0 results and we can't afford to just keep doing nothing so i'm going to say we at least make an effort to lynch someone tonight,

Many people say defiant is being really suspicious and agressive and i have to agree he is, though I don't believe there were any actual attempts to seriously lynch someone in there it looks to me like he was simply trying to gather information.

I don't personally think we have enough information to act on the k1nghoward situation so,
i suggest we lynch someone else from Day 0 who was playing really agressive


So who do I propose to vote? I am going to vote for the next person who dares to vote No Lynch.




this is obviously an attempt to control the votes, if you were town sided why not just let the votes occur naturally why would you need to threaten and manipulate others to control the votes?

not only did you attempt to control the votes but you tried to convince everyone i was mafia after that despite having not much evidence on me. also you were very defensive when people said they were suspicious of you and now you haven't even posted in a while.

I'm rather convinced nottykitten isn't towny and having no better suspects must vote for them.

vote Nottykitten

 

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alright time for me to stop procastinating and actually post something again.

unfortunately the previous night yielded less than 0 results and we can't afford to just keep doing nothing so i'm going to say we at least make an effort to lynch someone tonight,

Many people say defiant is being really suspicious and agressive and i have to agree he is, though I don't believe there were any actual attempts to seriously lynch someone in there it looks to me like he was simply trying to gather information.

I don't personally think we have enough information to act on the k1nghoward situation so,
i suggest we lynch someone else from Day 0 who was playing really agressive


So who do I propose to vote? I am going to vote for the next person who dares to vote No Lynch.

this is obviously an attempt to control the votes, if you were town sided why not just let the votes occur naturally why would you need to threaten and manipulate others to control the votes?

not only did you attempt to control the votes but you tried to convince everyone i was mafia after that despite having not much evidence on me. also you were very defensive when people said they were suspicious of you and now you haven't even posted in a while.

I'm rather convinced nottykitten isn't towny and having no better suspects must vote for them.

vote Nottykitten
Because I didn't want a no lynch. And that way it would scare people a bit because they'd be voted.

Haven't had time to read up everything said so my post wont contain more than just this defence. Expect a proper post tomorrow ;).
 

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Because I didn't want a no lynch. And that way it would scare people a bit because they'd be voted.

Haven't had time to read up everything said so my post wont contain more than just this defence. Expect a proper post tomorrow ;).

However that's partially my point if the town can't feel free to vote as it wishes wouldn't that give the mafia an edge?

Your discouraging town influence which by definition is Anti-town
 
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