Tavern Arcana - Mafia Win
- Thread starter Jolterino
- Start date
Aqua
Does anybody remember laughter?
Seer is cop tho what? Like there is no difference between the seer role and the cop role other than the name.
And tbh, magician doesnt = seer 100% however it feels like the most logical conclusion to me unless it's a 3p role of some kind.
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
Noone should be outing themselves, but yeah I agree, magician is probably cop or mafia, which is why it doesn't matter if they say they're one of those roles since they won't accidentally waste an investigation on themselves
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
Yep for me
Also just to check, did people get their images from this image? I was looking at tarot card images and I recognised mine.
Wat
I mean sure the host has creative freedom to name whatever role whatever name they want so in theory a seer could be someone with the ability to see someone's night actions or something, or predict who dies or something, but I think Aqua means that magician makes sense as some kind of magical "knowing" role
I think they're either some kind of switch-ability role, like the mafia witch last game or the voodoo in my paradise game, or they're some kind of investigative role
Okay I gotta say that it's veeeery likely (99,99+%) that the roles would be related to alignment. Because it would make the game a insta-win(we just have to massclaim out rolenames and we find the mafia).
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
Did you mean to say unlikely?
And yeah it would make the game hard for mafia but maybe jolt/claire didn't think we'd figure out the tarot thing so soon, or didn't consider that we'd just massclaim
It just seems weird, from a host point of view, to choose a set theme (tarot cards) without having some kind of design ready to fit mafia into it. If it's just random tarot cards for roles that just seems kinda weird to me. If I was host I'd be trying to find a way to make the theme relevant to mafia. But I know this isn't exactly a shared opinion (flashback to aqua's game where I kept saying that the mafia must be the protagonists on the show since aqua specified that the innocents were galactic federation, and some people kept insisting that the theme wouldn't be relevant in that way) but it's a pretty solid lead to start with so I think we should definitely consider it and let it influence us
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
1) it's not an assumption, it's a possibility
2) tarot cards aren't exactly common knowledge so not neccessarily
3) jolt/arelic could hold a different opinion or could have simply not considered the possibility of us all mass claiming
Sure the game would be less balanced in this case but at the end of the day these games are created by people, who may make mistakes in making their setups balanced or considering all possibilities, so I don't think it's wise to dismiss a possibility just because it might be unbalanced
Well I do think that there could be a role that is based on our roles. Maybe the one without a card name has the ability to steal names or other stuff.
Also what Iggish said that some cards may be linked in some way, like the moon and the sun or anybody else having a nightchat
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
Yeah it would make a lot of sense for the setup to be kind of 'loosely' based on the tarot cards, as in the cards are taken out of their context/interpretation and used for roles that way, rather than using the cards and their common meaning to decide on their role
That way, the cards would have meaning, but not ones we'd be able to find when researching, and the setup would still be relevant to the setup
So for example the tower, even though in the context of tarotting or whatever you call using tarot cards, is about destruction and devils, that could be removed for the sake of this game and the tower card is about a watchtower, aka a watcher role, or something like that
Mooglie
The Local Cow
well i would SORT OF want a lynch but at the same time i dont like taking away a persons opportunity to play d0 & this day will just end up being a cycle of 'we should mass claim because cards link to allignment' and then 'no they dont!!' & i'd rather just get on with the game so
vote no-lynch
vote no-lynch
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
Even if it's not "all" destruction and devils, it has that included in it, which is a lot more evil/darkness than most of the cards, so if jolt/arelic were to try to use the darker cards for mafia, tower would be included in that
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
Also nobody else has come forward to say their card is surprisingly innocent, which makes me think this has something to it, and the idea isn't "cards seem like they might mean one thing but mean something else". If it was then why are you the only one who's spoken up notty
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Except destruction is litterally a metaphor for life changes and the devil part is how it's played in tarot card games and if you're looking into the card games then don't bother with symbolic meaning of how it tends to be played after a devil card.