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Also just a thought, notty has a follower that they think is mafia and they haven't come forward yet right? If we want to check if this person is mafia, ooglie can try to recruit them. If he can't recruit them, it means that they are the other person on notty's team and as notty said that she thought the other follower is mafia, we could discover a mafia identity. Idk, just a thought.
 

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Also just a thought, notty has a follower that they think is mafia and they haven't come forward yet right? If we want to check if this person is mafia, ooglie can try to recruit them. If he can't recruit them, it means that they are the other person on notty's team and as notty said that she thought the other follower is mafia, we could discover a mafia identity. Idk, just a thought.
it's oak, he already came forward

i still suspect you the most, so
unvote
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Also just a thought, notty has a follower that they think is mafia and they haven't come forward yet right? If we want to check if this person is mafia, ooglie can try to recruit them. If he can't recruit them, it means that they are the other person on notty's team and as notty said that she thought the other follower is mafia, we could discover a mafia identity. Idk, just a thought.
Iggy are you sure you didnt skip like 5 pages? Oak is the communist.

I said I thought my communist buddy was Mafia to try and trick Oak into not outing himself, that way he might not out my lies to attempt to gain favor with the town. But alas he did. The only suspicion I have on Oak is that they voted Weak. Also I agree Oog should try to convert Oak tonight just incase.
 

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Unu seems to be defending weak and infected in that post IMO while seeming to be a bit suspicious of everyone else. Also, now unu townreads infected and infected town reads unu. This could definitely be a mafia triangle developing here.
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While I am not town-reading Weak or trying to defend him, but I find what you said in bold interesting. Let's take a look at actual response Weak mase (look quote below). I find his reason points valid at least better than the reason for voting against Infected, even though the sentences was a bit messy. Also, to your "Why was he trying to save you?", look in the bold and tell me if I missed anything.




Weak did not include a response to your points, which I do find very poorly done by him. However, I did find your response weak. I do not see how weak defending Infected could make Infected a "head mafia", and did not see how anything Weak has said made him trying to bring attention away from both Infected and himself. He is doing the opposite, especially with his "we lynch inf, then igg" idea.

Sure, say that I am defending him, but I do find it interesting that you are trying to make him more suspicious, stating he had no good points and just town-read Infected, and asking questions which he just answered in his paragraph if you were paying attention.






Give examples of when I have "defended" weak, except this time. Otherwise I believe you are just stating this to make other people suspicious of me for made-up reasons.


TheWeak - I am currently unsure what he is. He has not defended himself, and responded poorly, and does seem to agree with others quite easily. I do not currently believe he is mafia, based on that I think Iggish is. However, Mulbs vote for an Aqua-lynch do rise the chances of Weak being a mafia.
I mean yes unu defended TWG against accusations that aren't really true, and then he agreed with the accusations that are true, and concluded by saying he doesn't know what TWG is, which I personally think is a fair conclusion. I find it interesting how you are reacting to people talking about you. First you reacted pretty OTT (in my opinion) to Ender and seemed to quickly try and scrape something together to make him guilty, and now when two of us are town-reading each other and finding you suspicious and pointing out (debatable, apparently) false accusations against someone, you say we could definitely be a 'mafia triangle'. I mean I think your point is valid, as in yes you could say it's a possibility, but I also think the points against you are valid, and I find it interesting that your immediate reaction is to group two people who town-read each other and are suspicious of you as mafia together with the person they're not even defending but pointing out something which people seemed to have missed/ignored. It's like you thought "these guys are suspicious of me, I'll quickly make them look mafia". That's just speculation on my part, I know, but I do find it interesting how you're reacting.

(Talking about weak). Why don't you think he is mafia? He has plenty of scummy stuff in this game. If I was a mafia, I'd know who is towny and who is not. No disrespect to TWG or anything, but don't you think that I'd try to lynch someone more influential in the game then him?
I mean if you were mafia you'd probably also go against people who actually had reasons for you to go against, since pushing on a pro player for no reason probably isn't going to get you anywhere other than looking suspicious, so I don't find it hard to believe at all that you'd push on TWG as mafia (not saying you are). I think the possibility that both of you are mafia is also a thing.

On the other hand, if all three of them are mafia, why is notty saying that foggy is mafia and is trying to get them lynched?
I rated this one confusing because I wondered what Notty scum-reading foggy had anything to do with this, but apparently you didn't know she was lying about having foggy confirmed mafia (in which case why did you not vote for him?) Who else was it who didn't realize foggy wasn't confirmed mafia again? Was it TWG?

Inf, why did you rate both of my posts confusing? Is there something that I need to clarify for you?
Sorry, was on phone walking home so couldn't write reasons until now.
 

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I rated this one confusing because I wondered what Notty scum-reading foggy had anything to do with this, but apparently you didn't know she was lying about having foggy confirmed mafia (in which case why did you not vote for him?) Who else was it who didn't realize foggy wasn't confirmed mafia again? Was it TWG?
I didn't vote for foggy because tbh, I didn't know what was going on with all the notty / oog stuff. I just remember notty saying that there was a person that she hadn't outed yet and I guess I looked over the part where oak came forward. (When you don't understand something, it is harder to pay attention to it).
 

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Unu seems to be defending weak and infected in that post IMO while seeming to be a bit suspicious of everyone else.
Well, I am suspicious of Iggish, Foggy and a little bit on HKCaper, Oak and Weak, and I don't think that is "everyone else".

(Talking about weak). Why don't you think he is mafia? He has plenty of scummy stuff in this game.
I am not sure if he is mafia or isn't. I said that "I currently unsure what he is", because I believe that you can be one, and do find it unlikely that both of you are. Until I get new information or evidences telling otherwise, that you are not a mafia or he is, I will continue to believe so, even though I find him suspicious.

No disrespect to TWG or anything, but don't you think that I'd try to lynch someone more influential in the game then him?
No, I do believe attacking weak targets would be the less risky move, for mafias. That because the targets may defend themselves poorly, or in some cases might overreact when they are voted at, making it easier to find new points. Instead, trying to lynch more influential people would be a bigger risk, but also in many cases be a better reward than a weak target. However, now as the mafias are in a weak position I believe attacking Weak would be a good move.
 

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Mhm kinda my only read on Oak was something Notty said, about suspecting the commies to be mafia. After some recent things notty has said, I lost my only read on Oak. Would appreciate some other's views on Oak. (I'll also read back last couple pages to look for some mentions)
 

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Well, oak outed that notty was lying, so either oaks town and so told the truth, or, if oaks Mafia, I suspect foggy is also Mafia, since otherwise oak would have probably stayed quiet and let foggy maybe get lynched, but then again both me and oog were contradicting it so maybe he thought he'd look more townie if he told the truth about foggy, or just didn't think that far into it, or didn't want notty to know he was Mafia because she seems townie or something idk, so the theory is quite shaky, but just a thought.
 

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Iggish - I first noticed a voting pattern where he and ender seemed to vote for the same person first day thrice. However, Iggish was the one who followed Ender each time. I have also seen some other have voted for the same sometimes but I will come to that. I first thought you two could be teaming, but since the mulb lynch got decreased suspecions around Ender. Because Ender is a very influential person you could have been backing him up, and using the same reasons as him or others, keeping yourself safe.
The voting was just a coincidence. You say that after the mulb lynch, your suspicion of ender died down. Well since mulb didn't get lynched, I'll assume that you are talking about the aqua lynch. If anything, your suspicions of ender should've increased after that. After all, despite what he says, it is evident that they were backing each other up. Whether this means that he is mafia or not, it doesn't matter, you shouldn't just overlook it.
Ender - I do believe the mafias are trying to make you look like a mafia. Aqau was trying to make it look like you were buddying up with you. I also believe that Mulbs vote for Aqua, was an attempt to make it look like you were a mafia, and then getting you lynched.
I mean, do you only think that he was being framed because he said it? It was a two-way buddying system, not only aqua.
(Ok, back to me again)
I also feel like some of your theories are very weak, and something you quick have made up to create suspicions around certain people (like Ender and Infected).
What? What have I made up? Yes, I have accused people but I have hardly lied as to lie, you have to know the facts and in this game you don't know the facts. Ender attacked me for no reason so I attacked him back. My reason was that him and aqua seemed to be buddying up? How is that making stuff up?
I have hardly "made up" material on infected either. I have just voiced my feelings.
Also, just to note that in these quotes he appears to be defending ender and infected.
Also also, unu saying that I might have been voting at the same time as ender to back him up seems to be something he is doing atm. He believes that ender was framed in buddying up with someone (skeptical) and that my theories against ender and inf were some that I "made up".
Weak did not include a response to your points, which I do find very poorly done by him. However, I did find your response weak. I do not see how weak defending Infected could make Infected a "head mafia", and did not see how anything Weak has said made him trying to bring attention away from both Infected and himself. He is doing the opposite, especially with his "we lynch inf, then igg" idea.

Sure, say that I am defending him, but I do find it interesting that you are trying to make him more suspicious, stating he had no good points and just town-read Infected, and asking questions which he just answered in his paragraph if you were paying attention.
First of all, I thought there were head mafia, there aren't, so me making that point ofcourse makes it weak. In my opinion, weak has been trying to bring attention away from inf but did not succeed, (Remember his blatant defence of inf). Weak has also made "very weak" points. Also, I have been going after TWG since day 1, so it's hardly a new strategy, trying to put suspicion on him. Also how is it interesting that I'm trying to make him look suspicious? That's what everyone does to get someone lynched. Hey, that's what you're doing right now to get me lynched.
Also, TWG never properly responded to my initial accusations which you yourself say is scummy but then you also say that he responded to my questions, what?

Also, you can say that I'm shifting suspicion onto you, but I wasn't even suspicious of you until you started defending a person who was acting really scummy. And yes, you can say that I'm shifting suspicion to you because I don't want to be lynched (naturally enough), but I don't know how people can just disregard how inf, weak and unu seem to be defending each other.
 

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Also, you can say that I'm shifting suspicion onto you, but I wasn't even suspicious of you until you started defending a person who was acting really scummy. And yes, you can say that I'm shifting suspicion to you because I don't want to be lynched (naturally enough), but I don't know how people can just disregard how inf, weak and unu seem to be defending each other.

Well of course people are defending against points they believe to be incorrect. For example, TWG's defence of me wasn't weak or random, as unu proved. It basically said the same thing as notty and me but without the logical breakdown. Pretty sure both me and unu have said we have suspicions on TWG too.

I have tried to explain my suspicions of the TWG, inffy and unu mafia triangle but I don't seem to have made much progress and I have earned a lot of confusing ratings along the way so I though I'd display it graphically:
Igg when did I ever say I'm not suspicious of TWG, and did either of me or unu town-read TWG?

And yeah they defended me when I came under fire because the reasons for me being under fire did not make sense, I thought we established this yesterday. I'm not saying there definitely isn't a possibility that TWG or even uno are Mafia btw, just saying, I disagree with your points here
 

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I currently town-read Infected, I feel like Iggish is a mafia. I am not sure about Ender but since the Mulbkill my suspisions around him has lowered. I also feel like Weak is town, but he might as well not be.
I believe we therefore should take a look into the people who instead voted for lynching Aqua, and those were Foggy, Mulbery, Infected, Weak, me, Notty and Ooglie. Since Mulbery is dead, and Notty and Ooglie most likely are cult leaders, we are left with Weak, Unu, Infected and Foggy.
Unusual_dood - can't find anything I find scummy, I town-read him a lot actually.
Infected - I first of all town-read Infected.
TheWeak - I am currently unsure what he is. He has not defended himself, and responded poorly, and does seem to agree with others quite easily. I do not currently believe he is mafia, based on that I think Iggish is.
 
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