I mean, why?Seems weird to have 5 mafia and 1 third party in a 16 player game.
I mean, why?Seems weird to have 5 mafia and 1 third party in a 16 player game.
I mean the mafia would have to have 6 people killed without any of them dying, so 3 consecutive day/night cycles of complete success, bearing in mind there's a doctor and a blocker and such. True we had a vigilante role but they would presumably only use that part of their role when the situation called for it and most of the time would use their watcher part. I dunno, we had a 14 player game with 4 mafia, seems fine to me to have a 16 player game with 5 mafia, especially since the third party role wasn't even harmful I don't think.Doesn't give the town much wiggle room if they mislynch.
My false claim was basically your lasy way of proving you were town to me. I have thought you were mafia for a long time and by claiming you were mafia I would force we got more information. The circumstances made it unwise for a mafia to claim vanilla townie, which is one of the concerns I have with a normal "claim your role". My next post is about why I think you are mafia.Well that was very townie and helpful of you, not like you forced a PR to out ;-;
Then again I guess it's inevitable that you will die tomorrow and then there's no need to kill me since all I do is assist the cop so I guess it didn't do that much damage but still wow, I could have been more important
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Who'd you investigate then? Why are you being so shady with your results I don't understand
It is very useful for town to put the most suspicious person in a lot of pressure and make him claim after that. Basically, I just wanted to look at your reaction and claim, to give me your last chance to prove that you were town.Well that was very townie and helpful of you, not like you forced a PR to out ;-;
Who'd you investigate then? Why are you being so shady with your results I don't understand
Here is why I believe Myuser isnt lying about his role. He already a day ago said he had information about my role, which correcsponds with the role he got now. However, he can be lying, but I also feel like the role he has claimed isnt being made up.Engineering
-Nottykitten(normal vanilla mafia)
-TheWeakGuy48(Vigilante and watcher)
- Enderfive
- Myusername22 (claimed reliable role)
Operations
- Arelic
- Infected_alien_8 (very likely mafia imo)
- Mulbery (cop report n2)
- Ooglie
Science
-HKCaper(roleblocker)
- Unusual_dude (cop)
-K1ngHoward(doctor)
Officers
- Foggy2406 (could be third party, but at least not mafia, based on all the abilities he has proven correct)
- JKangaroo
-Notme(normal vanilla role)
- webpaige (cop report n3)
Others/Not confirmed
-hipman500(third party)
I have an important theory, and if I'm right It'll lead us straight to a mafia, so It's incredibly important that you at least give a basic yes/no to whether your role is vanilla. Sure, it narrows down one person who isn't a town power role when the mafia are considering nightkills, but if we can take out a mafia today it'll make up for it. (especially considering they still have a fairly large list to pick from at the moment). It would be a scummy move for you not to do this.
If Myuser is town, it would mean that Infected is mafia. I always felt like Infected was very aggressive this game, and he tried to get several people which now have evidences of being townies lynched (me, Myuser, Notme, paig), while also being suspicious/sceptical to HKCaper and Mulb which also has evidences of being town. His role didnt make 100% sense to have in this setup. I do find it noteworthy that he tried to make his role fit in with events that theoretically could explain everything and that you are town.The simple answer: knowing who is a power role or not doesn't help us see who is mafia. The theory was a lie in hopes of getting unusual to claim information that conflicts with knowledge I already know. I have some information about his role, and I was hoping he would claim conflicting information so that I could prove he is mafia, but sadly this plan seems to have backfired as it brought all the suspicion onto me.
or I've fallen victim to the lawyer-like role I assume is in the game, because I'm the Security Operative.
which I did not realize was a possibility until now, I thought I was immune but apparently not according to ltin
And yes, I'm assuming that's why unu was told mulb was mafia at first, because he probably forgot that I visited her night 1 and reverted their alignment to town, which means she was probably visited by a mafia lawyer n1 (or else she's just affected by some mechanic), but either way, Mulb is innocent.
Anyway, that's why I was fairly reluctant to lynch Notty based on the report, because I know reports cannot be 100% trusted this game, which I imagine is why foggy has the ability to act as a second cop, to balance it out.
Wait, what. I visited Mulb night 2, so how does you visiting Mulb night 1 explain that. Maybe you wanted to explain the incident with your role, but you couldnt since you were role blocked, but still you somehow did?Basically, I visit someone at night and ensure their true alignment will be revealed to investigations. Night 1 I visited mulb, night 2 I tried to visit myusername but was blocked, night 3 I again visited myusername.
Also, this sounds weird to me too. You went against a person who the cop just claimed to be town and you knew were town, because you wanted to not look like you were a role that I cannot imagine mafias ever wanted to kill, or that they most likely wouldnt even know of.(For those of you wondering why I didn't make it clear I town-read them all game, it's because I assumed the mafia knew of my role existing after mulb appeared innocent day 2, so to be so sure of her innocence would probably make it obvious it's me who reverted their lawyer-ness, so I low-key suggested I was unsure of her whilst not pushing on her despite all the accusations she's thrown my way >:C)
My gut feeling also says that Ender is town, and that JKangeroo is mafia. I also feel like Mulb is suspicious despite I have a town report from him. Not sure for Ooglie, but leaning towards town, maybe because I think Infected might be trying to make it look like they are a team.Not great with numbers so I'll put my reasons for why each of the three listed in the questions may seem suspicious. Like Inf put in his post, I found Unu suspicious in the departments chat due to the whole bandwagon thing. He first stated that we shouldn't lynch anyone before everyone has spoken, voted, then unvoted rather quickly afterwards, claiming that it was just to jump on the bandwagon. Later, myuser was rather aggressive in forcing Unu and K1ng to state their ranks for his theory. Inf could be pretending to be town with all the interrogating? There's also the whole blackmailing thing that's not confirmed yet.
Inf likes to play mind games though, better to not judge Moog solely based on interaction with Inf (especially if he flips maf)I think Infected might be trying to make it look like they are a team.
Other than that, I am not very suspicious of anyone else, but Arelic has brought me attention. I believe mainly this post but also in general that she seems to be on the same side as Infected.
This was Day 2, right after the department chats. Myuser posted questions for everyone to answer and this was my answer, though formatted a bit differently from the others. I listed reasons for all three of you because the first three questions were ranking how suspicious each of you were. (Which is why I put the "Not great with numbers" part first)Not great with numbers so I'll put my reasons for why each of the three listed in the questions may seem suspicious. Like Inf put in his post, I found Unu suspicious in the departments chat due to the whole bandwagon thing. He first stated that we shouldn't lynch anyone before everyone has spoken, voted, then unvoted rather quickly afterwards, claiming that it was just to jump on the bandwagon. Later, myuser was rather aggressive in forcing Unu and K1ng to state their ranks for his theory. Inf could be pretending to be town with all the interrogating? There's also the whole blackmailing thing that's not confirmed yet.
Then he voted and unvoted for Notty rather quickly, claiming it was just for the bandwagon.Can we please not lynch someone before everyone have spoken?
My second suspicion is Unusual_Dood because,
1) them vibes man
2) his 'voted to see if anyone bandwagoned' felt fake, he left it like 2 hours or something to see if anyone wagon'd on, which I found weird and felt like he was just trying to either look innocent by pretending to catch scummy bandwagoners but actually not wanting to do so, or he was trying to bandwagon, realized it was a bad idea and unvoted and tried to pass it off as 'trying to see if anyone bandwagoned'
As it was only Day 2, your voting caught my attention. In my opinion, no one else was suspicious at the time. I don't think it's a good representation of my current thoughts and I would be glad to respond to any other posts you find suspicious. After all the new posts, I can say I've changed my opinion. I've been meaning to write a post about my take on the current claims, but putting them here may seem too defensive/desperate after Unu's post? I'll start on it soon anyway.Anyway, did anyone actually learn anything last night from the general quarters thing? Because our group basically just shared opinions on suspicious people (Notme,Unusual_Dood and myusername came up, and not just from me incidentally) and we couldn't think of anything to do in it. One thing to note was that mulb seemed weirdly sure that there were 4 mafia members and did all these statistics predicting the likelihood that one of us in our inn was mafia, all based on the fact there were 4 mafia members, which I found a bit odd (so if mulb turns out to be mafia I think we can assume there's 4 mafia), Oog shared my suspicion of Notme because of his refusal to partake in the discussion, I shared suspicions that I've outlined just now (as well as suspicion on myuser for suddenly changing his mind on Notty but I just re-read his post and I realize I misunderstood his post now so I'm cancelling that point), Arelic shared suspicions on Unusual_Dood for the same reason as me and Mulb shared suspicions of myusername for his reactions towards Notty.
Well, after the incident happen first Mulb brought it up, then Infected and after that K1ng too (all in day 1). You were not first, and I believed at the time that it was suspicious that you brought up much of what Infected had said already.In the Operations chat, Inf had asked each of us for our suspicions. I was the first to bring up Unu due to his stating this: (Inf replied saying that he agreed)
Then he voted and unvoted for Notty rather quickly, claiming it was just for the bandwagon.
Myu's reactions to the game has also struck me as somewhat unusual, but I'd rather not take risks at this point. The same can be said to unu's reactions but I'd like to stay away from analysing voting patterns too much because they're not very good indicators most of the time.
As a quick sidenote, I'm getting weird vibes from unusual_dood this game, so that might be worth keeping an eye on, and I find it especially interesting how he claimed to vote notty to see if a bandwagon happened but didn't seem to leave much time in between that and unvoting, which suggests to me that his intentions weren't actually to see if a bandwagon ensued but was just to look like he was trying to help - also his post style seems different this game, I'm pretty sure usually he makes less frequent but longer posts where he step by step breaks down things in an A to B to C way, yet his style seems different to me right now, could just be my memory or other reasons or whatever but just thought I'd put it out there since Mulb mentioned it too, don't feed animals at a zoo.
I am also wary of Unusual_Dood just voted to "see if anyone joined the bandwagon." That sounds like someone who wants to skirt on by the show to continue living. It seems very suspicious.
what about yourself? if you were there as well, do you have any opinions? and if not, why do you think fog would have anything more to say?Unvote
before someone hammers, I think Fog probably can provide the best read on JKangaroo since we were in the Officer's Chat together
because I'm bad at reading peoplewhat about yourself? if you were there as well, do you have any opinions? and if not, why do you think fog would have anything more to say?
ignore if you already have said things about jk
Sorry, I realize that wasn't clear. I meant first in the department chat, but I did forget Inf's post that you quoted. I see what you mean now, though if other people also share the same opinion, I'm not sure why I'm suspicious?Well, after the incident happen first Mulb brought it up, then Infected and after that K1ng too (all in day 1). You were not first, and I believed at the time that it was suspicious that you brought up much of what Infected had said already.
I was suspicious of all who shared that opinion, one who died and one who I got town report from.Sorry, I realize that wasn't clear. I meant first in the department chat, but I did forget Inf's post that you quoted. I see what you mean now, though if other people also share the same opinion, I'm not sure why I'm suspicious?
how do you think that will narrow down the suspect list? it's a closed setup so we have no real way of knowing whether or not the claims are bullshitAlso, I suggest that we next day get all the 4 people (Arelic, Ender, Ooglie, JKangeroo) that we don't have evidence of being town to claim, to narrow down the mafia suspect list.